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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:39 PM Aug 2013

Sen. Markey: ‘Surgical Strike’ A Must To Punish Syria’s Assad

Sen. Markey: ‘Surgical Strike’ A Must To Punish Syria’s Assad

By Barbara Howard and Lynn Jolicoeur

BOSTON — As President Obama decides whether to launch a military response to Syria’s suspected use of chemical weapons on civilians, members of the Massachusetts congressional delegation are urging caution. In a written statement, Rep. Jim McGovern called for a united international response that avoids additional civilian casualties and further harm to already-stressed U.S. troops.

Sen. Ed Markey, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is calling for “surgical strikes” against sites Syria could use to launch chemical weapons. Sen. Markey spoke by phone with WBUR’s Barbara Howard.

Barbara Howard: What is your reaction to reports from the Obama administration that there is clear and convincing evidence that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons on civilians?

Sen. Edward Markey: I have confidence that President Obama and John Kerry are acting on absolutely conclusive evidence. I do believe as well that that is the pre-condition to any action that we take. I’m sure that we’ll see the evidence, and if that’s the case then I think that we have to send a message to Assad, to Syria, that use of chemical weapons is unacceptable.

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http://www.wbur.org/2013/08/27/markey-syria-assad



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Sen. Markey: ‘Surgical Strike’ A Must To Punish Syria’s Assad (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2013 OP
To "punish" huh? darkangel218 Aug 2013 #1
yep bigtree Aug 2013 #5
lulz.. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #8
Wouldn't bombing chemical weapon sites release a shit ton of chemical weapons into JaneyVee Aug 2013 #10
Yes! It would be very stupid to bomb such a plant. Rex Aug 2013 #12
Whats stupid is starting another war, while our own people are starving and going w/o medical care. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #14
I am just as sick of America being the World Police as you are. Rex Aug 2013 #17
I know we cant bomb the chemical sites. But the admins is saying we wont deploy troops on the ground darkangel218 Aug 2013 #19
"Confiscate them" darkangel218 Aug 2013 #13
Most likely. Hopefully not our troops. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #20
If they let the rebels secure them, you know on whos hands they will fall. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #21
I was thinking more like coalition forces or UN. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #22
Well, lets hope that will be the case. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #23
Clear and conclusive evidence that some local commander exceeded his orders. Yes. Let's escalate leveymg Aug 2013 #2
how disappointing. cali Aug 2013 #3
Funny how this "punishment" will leave the very weapons that were used intact because neverforget Aug 2013 #4
I think that 'punishment' will almost certainly widen whatever violence we bring to Syria bigtree Aug 2013 #7
Off to a flying start, I see. KamaAina Aug 2013 #6
Very sad and disapointing to me, as I still have his campaign signs in my hallway. canoeist52 Aug 2013 #9
So who will secure the chemical weapon sites so they don't fall in AQ's hands? Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #11
Our own troops, which will be forced to deploy due to this reason. darkangel218 Aug 2013 #15
Why not just spank Assad's ass and call him a bad boy? Vashta Nerada Aug 2013 #16
+1, Vashta cali Aug 2013 #18
Seems Sen Markey isn't trying to protect Assad.. Cha Aug 2013 #24

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
5. yep
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:49 PM
Aug 2013

. . . report yesterday said they intend to strike military targets, rather than attack chemical plants or the like.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
8. lulz..
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:51 PM
Aug 2013

So then the only weapons they have left to use will BE the chemical ones.

This s**t is incredibly stupid!

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
10. Wouldn't bombing chemical weapon sites release a shit ton of chemical weapons into
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 02:11 PM
Aug 2013

the surrounding areas? Perhaps our military is planning on confiscating them after the area is cleared of Syrian military.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
14. Whats stupid is starting another war, while our own people are starving and going w/o medical care.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 02:25 PM
Aug 2013

We CANT afford this war. Let others pitch in on this one. We need a fucking break.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. I am just as sick of America being the World Police as you are.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 02:30 PM
Aug 2013

My point was you don't want to bomb a chemical weapons lab or plant, nobody should. Yeah I agree, let someone else take up the mantle for war...we still have troops on their 11th deployment to Afghanistan. Now the longest war in American history.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
19. I know we cant bomb the chemical sites. But the admins is saying we wont deploy troops on the ground
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 02:34 PM
Aug 2013

well, who is going to secure the chemical sites then?? the drones?
their approach makes so sense! Syria will be just another Iraq in the end.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
13. "Confiscate them"
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 02:23 PM
Aug 2013

So that means invasion just like in Iraq and Afganistan. LOL.

Troops on the ground and all the works.

Yup.



leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. Clear and conclusive evidence that some local commander exceeded his orders. Yes. Let's escalate
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:42 PM
Aug 2013

the conflict and precipitate a really nice big regional war with Iran! Marvelous! We've waited long enough to check off that box.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. how disappointing.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:46 PM
Aug 2013

the potential for terrible consequences is so high here. Maybe the Senator, the SoS and the President should fucking try listening to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

[T]here are certainly actions short of tipping the balance of the conflict [in Syria] that could impose a cost on them for unacceptable behavior. We can destroy the Syrian Air Force. The loss of Assad’s Air Force would negate his ability to attack opposition forces from the air, but it would also escalate and potentially further commit the United States to the conflict. Stated another way, it would not be militarily decisive, but it would commit us decisively to the conflict. In a variety of ways, the use of US military force can change the military balance, but it cannot resolve the underlying and historic ethnic, religious, and tribal issues that are fueling this conflict.

Syria today is not about choosing between two sides but rather about choosing one among many sides. It is my belief that the side we choose must be ready to promote their interests and ours when the balance shifts in their favor. Today, they are not. The crisis in Syria is tragic and complex. It is a deeply rooted, long-term conflict among multiple factions, and violent struggles for power will continue after Assad’s rule ends. We should evaluate the effectiveness of limited military options in this context.

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/08/general-dempsey-on-syria-intervention/

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
4. Funny how this "punishment" will leave the very weapons that were used intact because
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:47 PM
Aug 2013

it's a very bad idea to hit chemical weapons with bombs. We're just going to degrade the regime's ability to use them again by hitting the delivery systems (artillery, rockets, aircraft). So we'll "punish" them and deal with whatever blowback comes our way because we had to do something. Stupid.

bigtree

(85,987 posts)
7. I think that 'punishment' will almost certainly widen whatever violence we bring to Syria
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:50 PM
Aug 2013

. . . to include almost certain attacks on Israel.

Talk about 'blowback'.

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
11. So who will secure the chemical weapon sites so they don't fall in AQ's hands?
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 02:14 PM
Aug 2013

Oh yeah they don't want to answer that question....

Cha

(297,154 posts)
24. Seems Sen Markey isn't trying to protect Assad..
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:34 PM
Aug 2013

what's wrong with him?!! Doesn't he know chemical weapons are okay because they're al queda?!

Sen. Edward Markey: I have confidence that President Obama and John Kerry are acting on absolutely conclusive evidence. I do believe as well that that is the pre-condition to any action that we take. I’m sure that we’ll see the evidence, and if that’s the case then I think that we have to send a message to Assad, to Syria, that use of chemical weapons is unacceptable.


thanks ProSense
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