DU Sucks

[Go Vols]

But it is considered a "non-chemical" weapon that the US uses in war.
I don't agree,and it seems most of the world doesn't either.

Once a depleted-uranium round strikes its target, the projectile begins to burn on impact, creating tiny particles of radioactive U-238. Winds can transport this radioactive dust many miles, potentially contaminating the air that innocent humans breathe.

This inhalation may cause lung cancer, kidney damage, cancers of bones and skin, as well as birth defects and chemical poisoning.
.......

She warned that DU maintains radioactivity for billions of years and can concentrate in the food chain, with children and babies more vulnerable to the carcinogenic effects of ingested radiation than adults.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1211-22.htm

In December 2012 the UN General Assembly passed a fourth resolution on depleted uranium. The text of 67/36 built on previous texts and recalled the position of the UN Environment Programme, which had called for a precautionary approach to the use of DU due to ongoing uncertainties over its long-term environmental behaviour. The resolution was supported by 155 states, with 27 abstentions and, as with previous texts, the US, UK, France and Israel opposed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

In September 2009, Fallujah General Hospital, Iraq, had 170 new born babies, 24% of whom were dead within the first seven days, a staggering 75% of the dead babies were classified as deformed.
This can be compared with data from the month of August in 2002 where there were 530 new born babies of whom six were dead within the first seven days and only one birth defect was reported.

Graphic pics and info at link: http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html



How is the US in a position to tell others right from wrong when the US does this?

[11 Bravo]

1. Serious shit will soon ensue from those who either failed to read or understand your post.

[Xipe Totec]

17. I'd say it was deliberately provocative.

Plenty of room in the headline to spell out Depleted Uranium. But Nooo!... It's got to be abbreviated to DU.

[A HERETIC I AM]

25. I'd say it's clever. It got me to click on the thread, anyway.

As far as Depleted Uranium goes, I've read all that I care to on the subject.


Now.....someone I've never seen before complaining about this message board?

Just can't get enough of that!

[Xipe Totec]

26. LOL!

That really made me laugh out loud!

Touche!

[awoke_in_2003]

31. Same here...

I know all about the dangers, but some don't. If it draws some extra views, then good.

[hootinholler]

45. I didn't for a long time

Because I thought it would be meta, I was wondering why it wasn't locked.

[Little Star]

61. It made me click it!

[pscot]

47. Well played, what?

[rug]

49. I was hoping for a rant about ducks.

[freshwest]

54. I was hoping for Divine Underwear.

[rhett o rick]

64. There is nothing good about ducks other than their tape. nm

[djean111]

2. Because the military lots of DU and will not hesitate, obviously, to use it.

Biggest bully.

[Kennah]

3. Ah dang. It's all instructive and shit.

[Go Vols]

29. :)

[Rex]

4. HA! I agree with #1

we will see who reads this OP and who just reads the title!

[shenmue]

14. I was getting ready to say that too!

Sneaky critter!

[RobertEarl]

5. Got me to click

And now the US will use depleted uranium on Syria to show Syria we are the only country allowed to use not just mere bombs, but chemically treated bomb material?

This is a true WTF moment. Thanks for the reminder.

[JoePhilly]

6. DU has become radioactive?

[Egalitarian Thug]

9. And magnetic. n/t

[Supersedeas]

48. and airborne

[mindwalker_i]

7. Only if you treat it well n/t

[atreides1]

8. Thanks for this

But the "I hate Assad" wing will probably attack you and then attempt to get this subject locked.

Great job.

[bunnies]

10. I was thinking about this earlier.

Hypocrites, we are.

[jeff47]

11. One is not required to be a saint to point out evil. (nt)

[avaistheone1]

12. The U.S. is hardly a saint. The U.S. is guilty of the same evil it is condemning Syria for.

The U.S. has no moral standing in this regard in terms of chemical weapons. We should not get involved with Syria other than to help negotiate a political solution.

[jeff47]

13. Guess I'll just quote myself again

'Cause it's still true.

One does not have to be a saint to point out evil.

[shenmue]

15. Stop trying to be logical

I hate it when people do that.

[avaistheone1]

16. Roses are red, violets are blue

And your point is?

[jeff47]

19. That your claim is stupid.

Your claim is the US can only get upset about something if the US has never done any wrong.

That makes little sense. A burglar can denounce a robbery committed by another.

[avaistheone1]

20. Sure a burglar can, but he appears very "stupid" doing so.

[Enthusiast]

57. I'm with you.

[Enthusiast]

58. "A burglar can denounce a robbery committed by another."

When they do, it's called hypocrisy.

[tk2kewl]

23. dumb quote. here's a better one:

When you fight evil with evil, evil wins.

[jeff47]

24. And when you refuse to fight evil

Evil wins.

But that is not the subject at hand. The subject at hand is the OP's claim that the US is not allowed to point out any evil acts done by other countries, because the US is not utterly pure itself.

[noiretextatique]

18. it's called: rank hypocrisy

to decry it when others do exactly what YOU are doing.

[jeff47]

21. So we should ignore the bad things in the world

After all, the US had slaves for around a century. Clearly we have no right to denounce mistreatment of others.

Alternatively, you could denounce both US actions and foreign actions, instead of desperately trying to minimize foreign actions for cheap points at home.

[noiretextatique]

40. how about not perpetrating "bad things?"

that way we won't be total hypocrites when we admonish people for doing exactly what we are doing

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. but then it is not "exactly" as this is it?

this was directly targetted to kill civilians...and civilians only....

[noiretextatique]

41. how many civilians were killed in iraq?

by US?

[VanillaRhapsody]

42. but they weren't intentionally targetted like this....

were they?

[cpwm17]

43. Since the Iraq War was completely unprovoked

it's totally irrelevant whether they were civilians or not we killed. They were all people and it's all murder. We intentionally committed mass murder.

[VanillaRhapsody]

44. But we are not under the "same management" now either are we?

Epic fail at analogy

[JoeyT]

52. Current management is defending the war crimes of the old management.

You can't protect war criminals while simultaneously insisting you won't tolerate war crimes. Well, we can, I suppose, but it's the very definition of hypocrisy.

[Enthusiast]

59. Exactly.........nt

[felix_numinous]

22. Photos of DU deformed children

and of its aftermath are conspicuously absent from American mainstream media debate, in order to concentrate all our shock and awe on selected images and events that create the latest narrative.

It is a powerful dehumanization technique--how many times has it been used to fan the flames of war? And how many enemies of the US have been created by cameras pointed at OUR atrocities?

[Arcanetrance]

28. I object to the use of both chemical weapons and depleted uranium shells

[Scuba]

30. Me too, plus land mines, fragmentation grenades, , bombs, bullets, knives and stones. If we ...

... start spending as much on diplomacy and good will as we do on arms we won't have three-quarters of the world's population hating us.

[Cryptoad]

32. One who makes such claims

should back it up with Proof..... but you furnish none!

[Go Vols]

34. lol

you missed the links in the OP?

[Cryptoad]

37. I read,,,,,

you really think that is proof?

geeez

[Go Vols]

46. What is it that you need more proof of?

That the US was in Iraq?That they used DU rounds against the Iraqis?That the US is one of 4 countries that voted to keep using DU?That it is a health hazard?Everything in the OP can be found in the article and source list in the wiki link.

[Boom Sound 416]

33. DU has a half life of 20,000 years

[tblue]

35. Oh. That DU.

I was gonna say.

[sulphurdunn]

36. And Saddam

killed Kurds and tens of thousands of Iranians with chemical weapons made from materials sold to him by American corporations. But then he was our boy in those days, so it was OK to have and use WMD until he wasn't our boy.

[pokerfan]

38. The there's White Phosphorous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_use_in_Iraq

Funny what we consider a chemical and what is not.

[freemay20]

39. never explodes

The round never explodes. It simply burns but at a temperature so hot that is melts people. You can clean out a vehicle hit by this ammo with a garden hose. There is nothing left but ash and sometimes, if the person was positioned correctly, there is a puddle of liquid where he/she was. To think troops were told to go ahead and use all them up and to kill anything that moved, just so gov't contracts could be filled is absolutely inhumane.

[ermoore]

50. Well-played, sir.

n/t

[Kennah]

51. Alright, now fess up. How many alerts did you get?

[rhett o rick]

53. This thread should be locked. Whining about DU.

Two can play that game.

[Go Vols]

63. :)

[joshcryer]

55. Epic fucking OP, holy shit, hahah!

Awesome.

[Enthusiast]

56. When the United States is

engaged in a war to protect our freedoms there is no wrong doing. Some people just never learn.

[Go Vols]

60. Protect our freedoms against

WMD's that didn't exist in Iraq is what you speak of?

[Enthusiast]

62. Yes

They hate us for our freedumbs.