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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMany Americans are not paying attention to the ACA's good provisions. And opponents are convincing
the public that the Patient Protection and ACA is going to cause problems.
http://kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/march-2013-tracking-poll/
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Many Americans are not paying attention to the ACA's good provisions. And opponents are convincing (Original Post)
DhhD
Aug 2013
OP
Or could it be that this clusterfuck is a con game designed to achieve only one thing,
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
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leftstreet
(36,078 posts)1. Once they start super-benefiting from it, they'll get it
I'm sure
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)2. Or could it be that this clusterfuck is a con game designed to achieve only one thing,
that being to ensure that corporate profits will remain at the center of who lives and who dies?
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)3. So far there is little to suggest otherwise.
My personal take on it is that the ACA is designed to lower the bar, for what is considered decent health care coverage, so that eventually they can dispense with all plans that don't include large deductibles and co-payments and very limited liability.
leftstreet
(36,078 posts)4. Wait til people with good employer coverage start losing it
How Obamacare Is Encouraging Employers To Cut Wasteful Spending And Promote Workers Health
By Sy Mukherjee on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm
In an effort to cut wasteful U.S. medical spending, certain employers will be scaling back expensive health plans available to their employees and encouraging workers to pursue more preventative and ongoing primary care. The move is being prompted by Obamacare provisions that encourage a more cost-sensitive and efficient approach to Americans health care than the status quo.
Recently-released government data shows that Americans medical bills are completely random, with some hospitals charging as much as $100,000 more for the same services performed at other facilities. In turn, that drives up the costs of many private health plans, and increases companies spending on employer-sponsored insurance.
Obamacare attempts to change this dynamic. Under the law, health plans that cost over $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for a family will have to pay an excise tax of 40 percent on every dollar that they exceed that cutoff beginning in 2018. As Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economics professor who helped design the law, explained to the New York Times, the tax is meant to reorient the way that employers approach their workers health problems and their associated costs. Its focusing employers on cost control, not slashing, said Gruber.
Companies arent waiting until 2018 to shift their health care models. Some are increasing their use of high-deductible health plans (HDHPs) which charge workers low monthly premiums but high annual deductibles in an effort to raise employees awareness of how much their health care consumption costs.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/28/2064441/employers-obamacare-cut-wasteful-spending/
By Sy Mukherjee on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm
In an effort to cut wasteful U.S. medical spending, certain employers will be scaling back expensive health plans available to their employees and encouraging workers to pursue more preventative and ongoing primary care. The move is being prompted by Obamacare provisions that encourage a more cost-sensitive and efficient approach to Americans health care than the status quo.
Recently-released government data shows that Americans medical bills are completely random, with some hospitals charging as much as $100,000 more for the same services performed at other facilities. In turn, that drives up the costs of many private health plans, and increases companies spending on employer-sponsored insurance.
Obamacare attempts to change this dynamic. Under the law, health plans that cost over $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for a family will have to pay an excise tax of 40 percent on every dollar that they exceed that cutoff beginning in 2018. As Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economics professor who helped design the law, explained to the New York Times, the tax is meant to reorient the way that employers approach their workers health problems and their associated costs. Its focusing employers on cost control, not slashing, said Gruber.
Companies arent waiting until 2018 to shift their health care models. Some are increasing their use of high-deductible health plans (HDHPs) which charge workers low monthly premiums but high annual deductibles in an effort to raise employees awareness of how much their health care consumption costs.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/28/2064441/employers-obamacare-cut-wasteful-spending/