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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:43 PM Aug 2013

State Dept Admits It Doesn't Know Who Ordered Syria's Chemical Strike

With the United States barreling toward a strike on Syria, U.S. officials say they are completely certain that Bashar al-Assad's government is responsible for last week's chemical weapons attack. They just don't know who in the Syrian government is to blame.

On Wednesday, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf admitted as much. "The commander-in-chief of any military is ultimately responsible for decisions made under their leadership, even if ... he's not the one that pushes the button or said, 'Go,' on this," Harf said. "I don't know what the facts are here. I'm just, broadly speaking, saying that he is responsible for the actions of his regime. I'm not intimately familiar with the command and control structure of the Syrian military. I'm just not. But again, he is responsible ultimately for the decisions that are made."

On Tuesday, The Cable reported that U.S. officials are basing their assessment that the Assad regime bears responsibility for the strike largely on an intercepted phone call between a panicked Ministry of Defense official and a commander of a Syrian chemical weapons unit. But that intelligence does not resolve the question of who in the government ordered the strike or what kind of command and control structures are in place for the use of such weapons. "It's unclear where control lies," one U.S. intelligence official told The Cable Tuesday. "Is there just some sort of general blessing to use these things? Or are there explicit orders for each attack?"

Because of that lack of clarity, Harf took a beating on Wednesday. In a testy exchange during her daily briefing, Harf very nearly admitted that it makes no difference who in the Syrian government ordered the attack, a reflection of the lack of certainty that still shrouds U.S. understanding of the chemical attack that may have left as many as 1,000 people dead.

In effect, Harf was left arguing that because no one else could have carried out the attack it must have been the Syrian government. "The world doesn't need a classified U.S. intelligence assessment to see the photos and the videos of these people and to know that the only possible entity in Syria that could do this to their own people is the regime," she said.

Given that U.N. inspectors with a mandate to investigate chemical weapons use were on the ground when the attack happened, the decision to deploy what appears to have been a nerve agent in a suburb east of Damascus has puzzled many observers. Why would Syria do such a thing when it is fully aware that the mass-use of chemical weapons is the one thing that might require the United States to take military action against it? That's a question U.S. intelligence analysts are puzzling over as well. "We don't know exactly why it happened," the intelligence official said. "We just know it was pretty fucking stupid."

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State Dept Admits It Doesn't Know Who Ordered Syria's Chemical Strike (Original Post) morningfog Aug 2013 OP
Yes, and "completely certain" Saddam had WMDs. Coyotl Aug 2013 #1
If doubt is popping up they may strike sooner than next week NightWatcher Aug 2013 #2
So much truth in that short statement. morningfog Aug 2013 #3
Even Cameron over on Downing Street is stepping back NightWatcher Aug 2013 #4
"they really want this strike." Aerows Aug 2013 #5

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. Even Cameron over on Downing Street is stepping back
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:01 PM
Aug 2013

Says he'll wait till the UN report comes out as well as addressing Parliament before acting.

They'll have to act soon or possibly not at all, and they really want this strike. If this effort fails how hard will it be to drum up another justification?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
5. "they really want this strike."
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:08 PM
Aug 2013

"If this effort fails how hard will it be to drum up another justification?"

That's the question, and too many people aren't buying trumped up bullshit justifications for more quagmires in the Middle East. I think their people are just as tired of fighting us as we are of them. It may sound silly, but I'd bet even their terrorists would like to go home and eat a sandwich rather than fight.

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