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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:48 PM Aug 2013

What is the real reason Republicans are against "Obamacare"?

I know the reasons many on DU do not support it but I don't hear Repubs ever talking about a single payer? They hate Obamacare for different reasons, it appears?

They didn't hate it when Bob Dole proposed it. At least, I don't recall the vehemence as it is over Obamacare.

Why do they dislike it so much?

Would they really shut down the government rather than have Obamacare go into full effect? I don't understand their passionate opposition to the plan?

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What is the real reason Republicans are against "Obamacare"? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2013 OP
OBAMA elleng Aug 2013 #1
Because it's "Obamacare" and not "Bushcare" or "McCaincare" or "Romneycare". NRaleighLiberal Aug 2013 #2
Because they are willfully ignorant SHRED Aug 2013 #3
they know it is a first step to socialized health care. nt seabeyond Aug 2013 #4
Yep n/t Just Saying Aug 2013 #8
Because the black man got this right; it's a brilliant idea that babylonsister Aug 2013 #5
... spanone Aug 2013 #6
Because the Insurance industry are big time contributors to Republicans Just Saying Aug 2013 #7
I think you may be right. kentuck Aug 2013 #9
I know people in that industry. Just Saying Aug 2013 #14
They drink the KoolAid that says that programs like these create a welfare state. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #10
Because if they didn't howl against it, it would probably be pretty popular Taitertots Aug 2013 #11
their biggest fear is an Obama triumph proving to be popular Skittles Aug 2013 #12
Greed gopiscrap Aug 2013 #13
Some Dems are critical because it doesn't go far enough. delrem Aug 2013 #15
Because it might work. n/t defacto7 Aug 2013 #16
They aren't against it, they are for it. It originated with them to line The Second Stone Aug 2013 #17
could it be olddots Aug 2013 #18

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
2. Because it's "Obamacare" and not "Bushcare" or "McCaincare" or "Romneycare".
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:51 PM
Aug 2013

Just another in their effort to try to ensure that our president can never achieve anything (which of course is folly, since he has accomplished much despite their best efforts at obstruction). One could say just nasty post-citizens united, Koch, ALEC partisan politics. Another could say it includes a large dose of racism.

babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
5. Because the black man got this right; it's a brilliant idea that
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:53 PM
Aug 2013

was a long time in coming, will help people, passed by the Senate and House, is the law of the land. It's already showing progress, but I'm sorry to say, because it's now OBAMACare, it's reviled.

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
7. Because the Insurance industry are big time contributors to Republicans
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:56 PM
Aug 2013

And they don't want anyone telling them how to profit from sick people.


Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
14. I know people in that industry.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:13 PM
Aug 2013

They had a fundraiser in their home for Bush and a Republican lawmaker regularly spent time in their guest room. They used to joke about it.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
10. They drink the KoolAid that says that programs like these create a welfare state.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:05 PM
Aug 2013

But somehow miss the part about the corporate welfare state that has been created that helps put regular folk into debt.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
11. Because if they didn't howl against it, it would probably be pretty popular
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:06 PM
Aug 2013

-They know the Republican base (Old Fox News Watchers) need medical care that the current system will deny them
-Robomneycare was the plan that they were going to push.
-They know it is a stepping stone toward universal single payer

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
12. their biggest fear is an Obama triumph proving to be popular
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:06 PM
Aug 2013

they don't give a flying f*** about problems people have with health insurance / health care - they actively pimp for the companies who profit off of misery

delrem

(9,688 posts)
15. Some Dems are critical because it doesn't go far enough.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:21 PM
Aug 2013

Some Dems think a single-payer system, designed after a study of the triumphs and flaws of the various single payer plans in the more progressive nations of the world, would make for a qualitative difference - that a socialist system is the only right way to go.

That's an argument that really hasn't been made, yet, in the US.

But Reps can't even imagine such a criticism. Reps in the US are well beyond the norms of "conservatism" and are, to be blunt, fascist. They don't want gov't regulation of *anything*, so *any* affordable care act would be anathema to them, being by gov't edict.

By "Reps" I'm talking about the fuckhead fascists who call the tune, not the huge number of independents who might've voted Republican in this or that election. These voters shouldn't be treated the same. That huge number of independents, maybe more than half of Rep voters, are waiting for Dems to speak to them, to explain how regulation has helped others over the whole world and can help them.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
17. They aren't against it, they are for it. It originated with them to line
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 02:05 AM
Aug 2013

insurance company pockets. They howl about it as a defensive line to keep the government from paying for all of it.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
18. could it be
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 02:08 AM
Aug 2013

because they have less brain's , guts and decency than one of my dog's turds after she eats a lizard ?

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