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struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:55 AM Aug 2013

Assange's Party preferenced white supremacists above Trotskyites and pornographers above the Greens

The Trotskyites seem unsurprised

WikiLeaks Party mired in crisis
By Patrick O’Connor
29 August 2013

... In May, the Socialist Equality Party explained that our long standing support for Assange’s exposure of the crimes of US imperialism through WikiLeaks ... did not obligate us to support his party or his Senate campaign.

In our comment, the SEP declared: "... To the extent that the WLP has attempted to formulate its programmatic demands, it remains within the framework of bourgeois-reformist parliamentary politics ... Assange’s political associations have been all over the map and reveal a man whose decisions are influenced by impressionism, naiveté and short-sighted opportunism ..."

The WLP in New South Wales (NSW) entered into .. preference negotiations with various Christian fundamentalist, right-wing parties, along with others such as the Sex Party, a front group for the pornography industry. The WLP finally preferenced these parties, and the fascistic Australia First party, ahead of others, including the Greens ...

The WLP has failed to produce a political manifesto or program. Instead, Assange has outlined a revised version of the Democrats’ pledge “to keep the bastards honest”, promising to be a party of review to ensure policy is not based on “inaccurate, poorly disclosed or inadequate information.” Such a stance simply means acceptance of the big business policies of the establishment parties. This is the real political content of Assange’s claim that his party is neither right- nor left-wing ...


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/08/29/wiki-a29.html


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Assange's Party preferenced white supremacists above Trotskyites and pornographers above the Greens (Original Post) struggle4progress Aug 2013 OP
impressionism, naivete and short sighed opportunism treestar Aug 2013 #1
That's actually a good summary of Neo-DU as well. nt tridim Aug 2013 #2
Neo-DU treestar Aug 2013 #3
I think that is actually more favorable than Wikileaks deserves but its a good start. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #4
Well, that was their view in May, before Wikileaks ranked them below struggle4progress Aug 2013 #5
Kick Scurrilous Aug 2013 #6
Wtf is wrong with him? How stupid do you have to be? Cha Aug 2013 #7
another thing in common with ron paul JI7 Aug 2013 #8
this sources is a Trotskyite-Communist newspaper - good to see all the usual Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #9
Yes, if you look closely at the OP subject line, you will see I referred to SEP as Trotskyites struggle4progress Aug 2013 #10

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
5. Well, that was their view in May, before Wikileaks ranked them below
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 08:40 AM
Aug 2013

the would-be murderer's party --- WLP may have lost some of its gleam and glitter in the eyes of the SEP since then

Cha

(297,184 posts)
7. Wtf is wrong with him? How stupid do you have to be?
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 05:30 PM
Aug 2013

SEP's got his number..

“Assange’s politics are an eclectic combination of libertarianism and reformism. However sincere his intentions, Assange’s political associations have been all over the map and reveal a man whose decisions are influenced by impressionism, naiveté and short-sighted opportunism.... As for the structure of the WLP, office holders and members of the new party include a wildly heterogeneous political mixture of disaffected Liberals, and libertarians and various currents of middle-class protest politics.”

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
9. this sources is a Trotskyite-Communist newspaper - good to see all the usual
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:35 AM
Aug 2013

Trotskyite-Communist rallying around their favorite news source.


Published by the International Committee of the Fourth International (ICFI)


struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
10. Yes, if you look closely at the OP subject line, you will see I referred to SEP as Trotskyites
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 05:31 AM
Aug 2013

The SEP is unhappy because Wikileaks party preferenced the SEP below the white supremacist Australia First party, which is led by a fellow who spent time in prison for an attempt to murder an African National Congress representative back during the 1980s, when the anti-apartheid struggle was at its height

It's fine with me if you do not love the Trotskyites. I feel quite sure they would have nothing but contempt for me, as a bourgeoise fan of electoral reform, while I conversely would note that they seem never to have obtained in excess of about 0.1% of the vote when on Australian ballots -- which puts them somewhat in the minor leagues of political parties there IMO

On the other hand, the Trotskyite tradition is decidedly anti-Stalinist, insofar as Stalin sent an assassin to plant an axe in Trotsky's skull, so they aren't really as a natural target of red-baiting as Stalinists might be. And, depending on where one resides, the label "Communist" may not have the same Cold War flavor it does in the US: South African communists, for example, played an important role in opposing apartheid -- which brings us back to the curiosity that the Wikileaks party preferenced the party of a racist would-be murderer of an ANC representative above the Trotskyites, who thus seem rather benevolent to me in comparison, since they haven't been roaming the countryside, preaching race-hatred

You might want to check the Australian Election Commission website for the preferences, which really are informative. The SEP commentary is factually correct at a number of points: the Wikileaks party really did preference minor rightwing parties above groups that might have seemed natural allies; in particular, the Greens do appear far below the pornography front Sex Party in the Wikileaks preference list, below the fascists, and even below the Trotskyites

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