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North Korean singer Hyon Song-wol, known as the ex-girlfriend of the reclusive state's leader Kim Jong-un has reportedly been executed by a firing squad, major South Korean newspaper The Chosun Ilbo reports.
Hyon and others were reportedly arrested on Aug. 17 for violating laws against pornography and publicly executed on the 20th.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/kim-jong-uns-ex-girlfriend-reportedly-executed-2013-8#ixzz2dMQGYMdY
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)A source told Chosun Ilbo that Hyon and the head of the orchestra "were executed with machine guns while the key members of the Unhasu Orchestra, Wangjaesan Light Band and Moranbong Band as well as the families of the victims looked on."
MerryBlooms
(11,759 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)Rodman's trip to North Korea. Very interesting footage. NOT
complimentary to NK. In the video it's admitted that what
Rodman et. al. were shown was obviously all a set up as to
what the NK gov't wanted them to see.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Orrex
(63,172 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:02 AM - Edit history (1)
then any legitimate humanitarian undertaking would be ridiculed and dismissed as a plot to seize control of that oil.
Cuts both ways, alas.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Orrex
(63,172 posts)But if past reality is any indication, then I think that my assessment is accurate.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)don't you?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)sometimes they ARE humanitarian....
Scuba
(53,475 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,759 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Over this would you support it?
On the other hand, if we "bombed" North Korea with food and medicine, I'd support that.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)But thank God none insane like this guy.
MerryBlooms
(11,759 posts)nolabear
(41,937 posts)In the old days it was the guillotine or the garrote. Despots gotta despot, and no woman who values her life should think she's going to change that.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Not to date Kim Jong Un. Though one who is North Korean may not have a choice.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,759 posts)lastlib
(23,167 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)I used to love her
But I had to kill her
I used to love her, Mm, yeah
But I had to kill her
I had to put her six feet under
And I can still hear her complain
I used to love her, Oo, yeah
But I had to kill her
I used to love her, Oo, yeah
But I had to kill her
I knew I'd miss her
So I had to keep her
She's buried right in my backyard
Oh yeah, Oo yeah, whoa, oh yeah
I used to love her
But I had to kill her
I used to love her, Mm, yeah
But I had to kill her
She bitched so much, She drove me nuts
And now I'm happier this way, yeah
Whoa, oh yeah
I used to love her
But I had to kill her
I used to love her, Mm, yeah
But I had to kill her
I had to put her, Oo, six feet under
And I can still hear her complain
MerryBlooms
(11,759 posts)Volaris
(10,269 posts)Porn and Bibles, Heirs and Executions.
When those people finally get around to overthrowing their lunatic government, I don't want OUR Government to be within 1000 MILES of the kind of no-longer-repressed, over-the-top cultural insanity that will emenate from the North for the ensuing 100 years or so.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Their lives are ruled by fear and adoration through generations of brainwashing. They are also probably not physically able to rise up, the calorie allotment for people is very low. They have no weapons, organization is impossible due to threat of death if you talk to the wrong person.
It's a very sad situation.
Just as and example: There is a documentary about a doctor who went there to perform free cataract surgery, he did like a thousand surgeries in just like a week or so. At the end when the room full of patients finally took off their bandages, they did not that the doctor. Instead, they went up to the picture of their dear leader and bowed and thanked HIM, over and over, while in tears, for curing them.
You can be arrested for folding a page of a newspaper that has a picture of the dear leader on it.
It is a very bizarre environment for any human to live in and is really the biggest cult in the world.
Volaris
(10,269 posts)and yeah, that was the point that I decided that if any Government really NEEDED Hellfire missles and a metric fuckton of foreign aid dropped into their country, it was NK. Iran can do what they need to do for themselves if we actually left them alone and treated them as an equal for awhile (I think that's all they really want anyway) but without Foreign Intervention, I think North Korea will be fucked until at least after the Zombie Apocolypse. lol
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I think I have seen just about every documentary on NK and it just leaves me very sad. Those people will never be free without intervention, but if there is intervention, millions would probably die.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Actually, when you think about it, NK would be a good testing ground for pacifism in action. How do you "intervene" on behalf of the people, without making the people the primary victims of your intervention?
I suspect step 1 would be food, and lots of it.
Step 2 probably involves knowledge in some form.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Unless we do somethings sneaky like drop food and medicine in rural areas and prison farms/camps. But it could not be seen as coming from us because the people there are conditioned to think the US are monsters.
The government wants the people underfed to control them. In fact one sad side effect is how small the recent generations of children are in comparison with their counterparts in SK. lack of nutrition has stunted their growth.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I also suspect it is part of the larger solution. The food doesn't have to be known to coming from the US. Leveraging the China connection would probably be part of the process. I actually suspect that China would be interested in seeing NK change somewhat, although not necessarily in the same ways that the US government would be interested.
In the end, getting food in there is going to have to be part of the process. And it might have to be done without the cooperation or knowledge of the NK government.
Volaris
(10,269 posts)as long as their is a SINGLE government that can decide to open up new markets to them. China is one Free and Fair Election away from actually running an Open Society with a Hybrid-style economy. When that happens, we will still call them "Dirty Commies", while believing ourselves to be better than them?
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I've lived in both South Korea and China. The Chinese believe that at least part of North Korea is their land. Secondly, they don't want to share a land boarder with a united Korea because of us having troops here. That's why they continue to prop up the Kim's brutal regime.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)So what you are suggesting is that our departure from Korea could manifest itself in a potential for freeing NK and reuniting the Koreas. All it takes is us accepting that China might be the primary influence in the region. So how do we get ourselves to that point and what has to change?
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm saying there is no way China will allow it to happen.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)The Berlin wall came down. Things change. China is in a constant state of change. They could get to a point where they'd either see an advantage, or not care.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Reforms in China are going to be very slow. The fact that they claim part of North Korea as their own is also a problem.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)South Korean television, music, movies (including those from the west), newspapers, etc. Slowly but surely they are seeping into the country. Also before the death of Kim Jong Il many people were slipping back and forth between North Korea and China and learned quite a bit while in China.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Most people have very little idea of just how bad it is in NK.
Her fate was sealed the moment he picked her.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Oh wait.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)the only difference is, instead of worshiping some mythical being in the sky, they worship the Great Leader!
Indoctrination from the first words a baby can speak....
Just like how the catholic church had their murderous Inquisition Kim has his death squads.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)I guess atheists don't really exist by some definitions.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)They claim the Kims control the weather, cause new stars to appear in the skies, and have such flawless juche metabolisms that they never need to use a washroom, and that's on top of setting the calendar's zero year to Kim Il-sung's birthdate.
I don't mean the usual hyperbolic version of "deify" that you're talking about; I mean they actually push the idea that their leaders are effectively gods in a sense that the Romans would recognize, and punish those who suggest otherwise.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)His current wife wanted the ex-girlfriend out of the way.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)and condemned you for being a cryptofascistauthoritarian puppet for posting such propaganda.....
Sigh.
MerryBlooms
(11,759 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...he/she was convinced it was a true worker's paradise:
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)How would it feel to be soldier in row 90 column 60? It's like each one is a robot with no autonomy.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...they got "minders" who watch each other, the ultimate in big brotherism. It's truly classless...
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)and put her on my very short ignore list.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)she's post-building in another forum here on DU, as we speak.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Those crazy pictures....they looked like they were taken with 1950s era equipment. They had that "instagram" vibe before there was Instagram!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)unleash itself on GD. It has multiple identities, I'm sure....socks in the drawer.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Grade A Asswipe, but fawning adoration of NK????????????
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)guess that fur was gonna fly when people started badmouthing Mother Russia.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)the worst, most communist nation on earth? Because that was sure a FAIL.
No thinking human being could possibly support them unless they had a gun to their head.
ETA: I mean, I know she WAS a troll, but she had to have been given a mission to come off as a freak so RW sites could point to DUers as commies and such. That's my take.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)be conjured out of thin air if her name is said at the right time, or enough times or while there's lightning or something.
So for god's sake, be careful.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Oops.
ladyVet
(1,587 posts)Smiling NK? That is so wrong.
I guess I missed all that fun stuff.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Thanks for the memories!
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)UTUSN
(70,649 posts)Kim Jong Un satellite:
hughee99
(16,113 posts)"Snd me sxy pic so I can hav u shot if we brk up "
I kid, though. I doubt they have texting.
JI7
(89,241 posts)but if it did i don't think i would feel bad.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)That bit of art makes him look a bit too pensive and noble. Maybe something along the lines of Ivan the Terrible would better capture his "inner essence"?
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Henry VIII had six wives only two of which were executed... Anne Boleyn beheaded on trumped up charges, Catherine Howard on actual charges. His first wife, Katherine of Aragon, he divorced claiming she was never legally married to him to begin with so that he could marry Anne Boleyn. Less than 24 hours after Anne Boleyn's execution he married wife No. 3, Jane Seymour. Jane died after giving birth to Edward VI (Henry's first and only son to survive infancy). He then married Anne of Cleves though he was pissed off that she looked nothing like he was told and thought she was ugly and smelled bad though the people loved her. He divorced her using the excuse that she was previously betrothed (she outlived him and all the other wives). Following the execution of his 5th wife, Catherine Howard, his sixth and final wife was Katherine Parr who outlived him and upon his death almost immediately married Thomas Seymour, brother to Jane Seymour. She died after childbirth having become pregnant for the first time in her life at an older age with Seymour and likely from the same illness as Jane which was all too common in those days since they had no understanding of cleanliness when treating a patient. Woman commonly died in childbirth back then or soon after from what was likely puerperal fever, an acute form of septicemia.
PCIntern
(25,491 posts)I just saw her in that movie with Christopher Reeve...
Just kidding...
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Yet Henry prized her the most and insisted on being buried beside her (which he was). She was so uneducated she could barely even write her own name (just her first name... the whole thing would have been beyond her). Kind of odd seeing as Henry prized both beauty and intelligence neither or which she had (at ALL).
Rather a shame that such a pretty actress got stuck with that wife's name... I suppose it's better than getting stuck with the name Catherine Howard though seeing as she was a young selfish greedy ninny that actually did commit treason in sneaking about boinking a hotty at court. I'd actually forgotten all about the actress Jane Seymour. I did always rather like her though. I can't think of anything she's been in since the '80's.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)I would hate to be his next pick...
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)It's par for the course for NK, but you would think they could get a second source considering the were supposedly executed in public.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Crimson76
(79 posts)gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)Nice sarcastic comment, you'll fit in well!
BainsBane
(53,016 posts)What a homicidal sociopath. How awful for the poor woman.