In This Bizzarro World We Live In - Things Have Flipped 180 Degrees Again.....

[global1]

Obama, Biden, Kerry and Hagel - are sounding much like W. Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld

And John Boehner is writing a letter asking questions of Obama demanding a clear plan of action, strategy, the legal justification of such a response and that the White House consult Congress before taking any action against the Syrian government. Boehner wants clearly defined objectives and a broader strategy to achieve stability.

Did I wake up on the wrong side of the bed this a.m.?

[Mnemosyne]

1. I've felt that we slipped into another dimension on Dec. 2000. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Kabuki theater, from the Empire

I am not surprised or shocked.

[Agnosticsherbet]

3. this is the best answer to the question in the OP....

Though it is clear Chemical Weapons were used, this is an Imperial act that is about far more than just sending a warning message to the perpetrators of the crime. As I heard on an MSNBC interview while eating my salad, this is a message to Iran, and a message to the resurgent Russia who supports Syria and Iran.

It's like a slightly warmer cold war with slightly different players.

[Amonester]

32. Yep. The Pentagon itches to show them their latest high-tech toys.

Ten Years After their last Bagdhad's fireworks...

[Not Sure]

20. Spot on

[heaven05]

22. neither am I

no more war.

[dixiegrrrrl]

4. Boner missed the accusation of treason...which has legs.

In a convoluted way....
if we give aid to the "rebels", in whatever form,
and Al-Quada is now reported to be part of the rebels..
then does this meet the defintion of treason?

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

[Celefin]

6. Good point, but maybe he missed that on purpose?

Doesn't 'treason' in its legal sense require an offical state of war with a country towards which congress has issued a declaration of war?
What a tangled web.

[dixiegrrrrl]

10. teh definition of treason I posted IS the legal sense.

18 USC § 2381 - Treason

you can find it here, on Cornell Law website:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

Note: "levies war against them or adheres to their enemies,"

remember, this country has stated we are in a perpetual War on Terror, has defined what a terrorist is, esp. defined Al-Quada as terrorists.

[Celefin]

12. Thanks for that dixie

then the reason for leaving it out would probably be not having to discuss republican presidencies

[obxhead]

23. Or they are waiting for an actual strike without Congressional oversight

Then they bring out the treason charge after the crime has been committed.

Then we slide right into 2014 and 2016 elections.

Striking Syria will do nothing good for the country or the party.

[Arcanetrance]

5. The only reason Boehner is asking questions is because Its Obama that wanted to do it

If it was McCain or Romnet he'd be quiet

[Autumn]

7. Hell of it is, if those pukes were in charge we would have been at war yesterday.

But Obama has given those hypocritical assholes a club to beat him with.

[Jim Lane]

24. Precisely. And Senators Obama and Biden would have been expressing opposition...

or at least grave concern.

Biden would still be Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee. He might hold hearings. Maybe Noam Chomsky would be available to testify.

[Faryn Balyncd]

8. Politicians tend to "support the team" over values & principles.

[raccoon]

9. "Meet the new boss--same as the old boss!" nt

[Hydra]

11. You know something is wrong when Republicans sound reasonable

I always have to flinch when Pat Buchanan is right. Shows how far down the rabbit hole we've gone.

[valerief]

13. The story is the same, only the faces change.

[AsahinaKimi]

14. Maybe we all have entered

The Twilight Zone..

[Richard D]

15. Fox ews

Is generally pushing anti war. Can someone please wake me up?

[woo me with science]

16. SHHHHHHH!

We have always been at war with Eastasia!

[KittyWampus]

17. No, Obama and Biden and Kerry do not sound like Bush. If you think that, you aren't really listening

[Dragonfli]

29. You're absolutely right Kitty, they use much bigger words to get there war machine on. /nt

[sabrina 1]

18. It's obvious now that it is and was all Theater to deceive the masses.

They are ALL on board for the PNAC plans to 'rearrange the ME' and install puppet governments who will be less independent.

IF we had begun to work on being less dependent on oil back when Carter was in the WH, we wouldn't need it so much and the Oil Cartels and their greedy supporters would not have the power they now have.

I'm glad we saw it all come full cycle. I used to be puzzled by the Dems who, in just enough numbers, would consistently SAY ONE THING, then go in and vote for ever Bush policy that came to the floor.

Then they would switch so we wouldn't remember their last vote, and next time, a few different Dems would make sure Bush got his funding and his policies passed.

It was frustrating as hell to watch. But not any more, I like to KNOW what is going on and now we do. Now we have to decide what can be done about it.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

25. But we are less dependent on gas and oil

and in fact exporting more than we ever have. No shortage, just a lot of greed.

This is being driven by the MIC, who has this and other countries by the throat.

You're right about what to do about it, sadly most citizens really don't have a clue on what's going on right under their noses and seemingly don't care.

[sabrina 1]

31. I think more people know than used to. Especially young people who don't

get their news from the MSM, they get it from far more credible sources from all over the world.

The unpopularity of Congress, the dissatisfaction with the Government is at an all time high.

And look at the tiny fraction of the country that supports this latest war.

I think there is a shift now on all sides of the spectrum regarding these issues.

[bvar22]

35. "Villian Rotation".

"They (The Democratic Party) are willing to bravely support any progressive bill as long as there's no chance it can pass"

"The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, [font size=3]but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it.[/font]

One minute, it’s Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity;

the next minute, it’s Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and “breaking with their party” to ensure Michael Mukasey’s confirmation as Attorney General;

then it’s Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion;

then it’s Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists....

http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/

[longship]

19. Do all the normal good guys have goutees?

[obxhead]

21. excellent post.

Putting where we are at ( on this issue) into blunt terms that are the simple truth.

I simply can not believe the situation being discussed right now. Insanity is too kind of a word for the world we live in today.

[JVS]

26. If we really go through the rabbit hole, Republicans will win in 2014 and then impeach Obama...

over Syria.

[darkangel218]

28. What would happen then, who will replace him, Biden?

[reformist2]

27. Is scary how with respect to foreign policy how they are all of the same voice.

[blackspade]

30. No doubt.

I think I fell through the veil into the anti-matter universe.....

[jsr]

33. The red team and the blue team have swapped shirts with each other.

That's all.

[TwilightGardener]

34. I don't think any of them sound like BushCo.

I think they've tried to avoid overt action in Syria as long as possible--and all I've heard them say was "we believe Assad did it, and we should respond because WMD's really suck". If any of them start talking about promoting freedumb-n-democracy and smoking-gun-mushroom-cloud and greeted-as-liberators, then come back and we'll talk.