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British Parliament says no to Syrian action. (Original Post) RGinNJ Aug 2013 OP
Well, there goes the the Royal Navy elements nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #1
What Royal Navy? Jeneral2885 Aug 2013 #13
That is Royal Navy nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #19
ahem Jeneral2885 Aug 2013 #22
HMS Illustrous can go back to port. FarCenter Aug 2013 #2
wrong Jeneral2885 Aug 2013 #14
What???!!!! This is an outrage , who is responsible for this ?????!!!" SummerSnow Aug 2013 #3
BBC is great tonight malaise Aug 2013 #4
No. They've said no vote until after the U.N. releases its findings cali Aug 2013 #5
You should watch BBC malaise Aug 2013 #6
I listened live. I can't find confirmation of what you claim cali Aug 2013 #10
It is over malaise Aug 2013 #12
I am thrilled to be wrong. Now if President Obama would just reconsider cali Aug 2013 #17
He will n/t malaise Aug 2013 #18
Here from the Guardian malaise Aug 2013 #16
See quote in reply #8 - Cameron is taking this as 'don't join an attack' (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #9
Obama is in a VERY lonely place right now. MoonRiver Aug 2013 #7
Obama only made one mistake malaise Aug 2013 #15
Yes, he just needs to let this go. MoonRiver Aug 2013 #20
YES! Celefin Aug 2013 #8
It would be nice if we AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #11
On behalf of us who don't want war LittleBlue Aug 2013 #21

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
13. What Royal Navy?
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:18 PM
Aug 2013

There's only the Tomahawks from the submarines. There's no RN strike aircraft that can breech Syria's air defences.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. That is Royal Navy
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:59 PM
Aug 2013

Is it not? That is at least twenty less missiles

Also they had a frigate or two involved.

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
22. ahem
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 05:57 AM
Aug 2013

the Frigates havve no land strike weapon unless you want them to close in to use their 4.5 inch gun and expose them to missile attacks.

I wager it's less than 20 Tomahawks on HMS Tireless.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. No. They've said no vote until after the U.N. releases its findings
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 05:43 PM
Aug 2013

still a good thing but not what you claim.

malaise

(268,734 posts)
6. You should watch BBC
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 05:44 PM
Aug 2013

They say this is it -the British public and MPs have no plan to support an attack on Syria

malaise

(268,734 posts)
16. Here from the Guardian
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:36 PM
Aug 2013


Here is what David Cameron said to Ed Milband. Miliband asked for an assurance that Cameron would not use the royal perogative to launch an attack on Syria (ie, without consulting parliament) and that instead he would only launch an attack following a Commons vote.

I can give that assurance. Let me say, the House has not voted for either motion tonight. I strongly believe in the need for a tough response to the use of chemical weapons, but I also believe in respecting the will of this House of Commons. It is very clear tonight that, while the House has not passed a motion, it is clear to me that the British parliament, reflecting the views of the British people, does not want to see British military action. I get that and the government will act accordingly.

malaise

(268,734 posts)
15. Obama only made one mistake
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:19 PM
Aug 2013

No more lines that can't be crossed. He's not so full of ego to admit that was a stupid comment.
This is about human lives not his credibility.
Fuck the neo-cons - no more fugging war.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
20. Yes, he just needs to let this go.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 08:06 PM
Aug 2013

It will be soon forgotten. He is not running for president again, and in terms of his legacy, this won't even be a footnote.

Celefin

(532 posts)
8. YES!
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 05:52 PM
Aug 2013

• MPs have voted down a government attempt to secure provisional authorisation for military intervention in Syria.
• David Cameron has said he will respect the decision, and not order an attack.

The government has lost by 285 votes to 272 - a majority of 13.

David Cameron's reaction to the defeat

Here is what David Cameron said to Ed Milband. Miliband asked for an assurance that Cameron would not use the royal perogative to launch an attack on Syria (ie, without consulting parliament) and that instead he would only launch an attack following a Commons vote.
"I can give that assurance. Let me say, the House has not voted for either motion tonight. I strongly believe in the need for a tough response to the use of chemical weapons, but I also believe in respecting the will of this House of Commons. It is very clear tonight that, while the House has not passed a motion, it is clear to me that the British parliament, reflecting the views of the British people, does not want to see British military action. I get that and the government will act accordingly."

(from The Guardian)

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
21. On behalf of us who don't want war
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 09:00 PM
Aug 2013

Thank you, Britain.

Showing us how democracy is supposed to work when it's permitted.

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