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sheshe2

(83,669 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 06:51 PM Aug 2013

The Children of Lidice



On 2 July 1942, most of the children of Lidice, a small village in what was then #Czechoslovakia, were handed over to the Łódź Gestapo office. Those 82 #children were then transported to the extermination camp at Chełmno 70 kilometers away. There they were gassed to death. This remarkable sculpture by by Marie Uchytilová commemorates them.

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THE HISTORY OF THE WAR CHILDREN’S VICTIMS MONUMENT

The destiny of Lidice children is the saddest part of the Lidice tragedy. The children were separated from their mothers in the gymnasium of the Grammar school in Kladno. The children were moved by train to Lodz where they had lived for 3 weeks in a collection camp.

The youngest child was only 1 year and six days old the oldest boys were under the age of 15, girls were under the age of 16. On June 2 their destiny was decided. Few children had secretly received correspondence lists so that they could write to their relatives. Afterwards there was a command for their movement to the extermination camp in Chelmn.


The victims were taken to a castle and were told that they would continue their journey. They had to undress; they only could keep underwear, a towel and a soap so that they could take a shower before the journey. Afterwards they were taken to a truck that was specifically modified for 80-90 people, where they were killed by exhaust gas in 8 minutes. This is where the trace of Lidice children ends.
MORE.
http://www.lidice-memorial.cz/mchild_history_en.aspx

Massacre

All men of the village were rounded up and taken to the farm of the Horák family on the edge of the village. Mattresses were taken from neighbouring houses where they were stood up against the wall of the Horáks' barn. The shooting of the men commenced at about 7.00 am. At first the men were shot in groups of five, but Böhme thought the executions were proceeding too slowly and ordered that ten men be shot at a time. The dead were left lying where they fell. This continued until the afternoon hours when there were 173 dead. Another 11 men who were not in the village that day were arrested and executed soon afterwards as were eight men and seven women already under arrest because they had relations serving with the Czech army in exile in the United Kingdom.

A total of 203 women and 105 children were first taken to Lidice village school. They were then taken to the nearby town of Kladno and detained in the grammar school for three days. The children were separated from their mothers. Four women were pregnant and were sent to the same hospital where Heydrich died. Their fetuses were forcibly aborted and the women sent to different concentration camps. On 12 June 1942, 184 women of Lidice were loaded on trucks, driven to Kladno railway station and forced into a special passenger train guarded by an escort. On the morning of 14 June 1942, the train halted on a railway siding at the concentration camp at Ravensbrück. On their arrival the Lidice women were first isolated in a special block. The women were forced to work in leather processing, road building, textile and ammunition factories.

Eighty-eight Lidice children were transported to the area of the former textile factory in Gneisenau Street in Łódź. Their arrival was announced by a telegram from Horst Böhme's Prague office which ended with: the children are only bringing what they wear. No special care is desirable.[citation needed] The care was minimal. They suffered from a lack of hygiene and from illnesses. By order of the camp management, no medical care was given to the children. Shortly after their arrival in Łódź, officials from the Central Race and Settlement branch chose seven children at random for Germanisation. The few children considered racially suitable for Germanisation were handed over to SS families.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidice



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The Children of Lidice (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2013 OP
..... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #1
I agree, thank you Agosticsherbet sheshe2 Aug 2013 #8
Even under the guise of "war" ... lpbk2713 Aug 2013 #2
Because the Nazis did this in revenge for the assassination. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2013 #3
I am part German, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #4
My Lai comes to mind. lpbk2713 Aug 2013 #5
Well said. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #7
Sand Creek massacre Zorra Aug 2013 #20
Scorched earth Hydra Aug 2013 #6
Sadly true. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #9
We need these reminders. eridani Aug 2013 #10
I can't help but think of some other dead children; these don't have any statues. eomer Aug 2013 #11
And YES, it CAN happen here. SamReynolds Aug 2013 #12
Explain that please. nt sheshe2 Aug 2013 #13
I'll assume that you deny the possibility. SamReynolds Aug 2013 #18
Oh dear, so sad. mahalo Cha Aug 2013 #14
Yes, Cha~ So senseless sheshe2 Aug 2013 #16
. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #15
Yes~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #17
.... HappyMe Aug 2013 #19

lpbk2713

(42,744 posts)
2. Even under the guise of "war" ...
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:01 PM
Aug 2013



how the hell could anyone allow themselves to participate in something like this?

DinahMoeHum

(21,779 posts)
3. Because the Nazis did this in revenge for the assassination. . .
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:08 PM
Aug 2013

. . .of Reinhard ("The Hangman&quot Heydrich, the No. 2 man in the SS, and head of the Gestapo. That killing took place in Prague, by Czechs trained by the British Special Operations Executive (SOE)

lpbk2713

(42,744 posts)
5. My Lai comes to mind.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 07:25 PM
Aug 2013



And I'm sure there have been too many others in the history of the American military.

It's hard to say what I would do if confronted with a similar situation but I suspect
I would either shoot myself or whoever told me to do it.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
20. Sand Creek massacre
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:52 AM
Aug 2013
The Sand Creek Massacre (also known as the Chivington Massacre, the Battle of Sand Creek or the Massacre of Cheyenne Indians) was an atrocity in the Indian Wars of the United States that occurred on November 29, 1864, when a 700-man force of Colorado Territory militia attacked and destroyed a village of friendly Cheyenne and Arapaho encamped in southeastern Colorado Territory,[3] killing and mutilating an estimated 70–163 Indians, about two-thirds of whom were women and children. The location has been designated the Sand Creek Massacre National Historic Site and is administered by the National Park Service.
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I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces ... With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors ... By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops ...
—- John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865[20]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Creek_massacre

eomer

(3,845 posts)
11. I can't help but think of some other dead children; these don't have any statues.
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 08:34 PM
Aug 2013

I will refrain from posting images of them in their death, but only barely.

 

SamReynolds

(170 posts)
18. I'll assume that you deny the possibility.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:37 AM
Aug 2013

And just lay it out for an otherwise intelligent person:

The corporations control our government. If I have to make the case for this, you really haven't been doing enough diligence of your own... so I'm not going to make the case. Still and all, it's the reality.

Their number ONE objective is to turn a PROFIT every quarter. That's a fact.

Our rights and freedoms are the last few obstacles to *Guaranteed Profits*. (Unless you've been in a cave for 60 years, you've seen the erosion of unions and worker's rights)

There is a never ending quest for power. It's human nature. Those with the most power will suck the middle classes dry in the pursuit of enough power to eliminate their rivals from the race. For from where else can one derive power when he has exhausted all other avenues?

That means that the goal is slave labor, no human rights, no due process, no dignity. Fascism.

Oh, and it's happened before. We would not be the first country whose media polarized the people against one-another until the frightened and ignorant were convinced to fall upon their curious and enlightened neighbors. Liberals are the enemies of the power seekers. The conservatives will be all too happy to round them up and put them into camps.

Cha

(296,893 posts)
14. Oh dear, so sad. mahalo
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 10:43 PM
Aug 2013

for bringing this compelling Sculpture of these poor children to light, she

sheshe2

(83,669 posts)
16. Yes, Cha~ So senseless
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 11:37 PM
Aug 2013

Her husband J.V.Hampl continued in the work since 1990 on his own. In spring 1995 there was a concrete rest cased by marble blocks made on the marked place. Afterwards the moment that was awaited for long time came. 30 children in bronze shape returns to their mothers in Lidice.

Since summer 1996 more statues were installed with a different time in between each installation. The last seven were uncovered in 2000. Currently there are 42 girls and 40 boys murdered in 1942 looking at the valley.

http://www.lidice-memorial.cz/mchild_history_en.aspx






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