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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 07:06 AM Aug 2013

US, UK should show Syria chemical weapons intel to Russia - ex-British Navy chief

The UK and US need to produce the evidence they claim to have that proves the Syrian regime used chemical weapons, a former head of Britain's Royal Navy, Baron West, told RT.

As the Western powers call for a military strike, Baron Alan West of Spithead, a former First Sea Lord and senior security adviser to the British government, warned that the conflict could spiral out of control and play into the hands of Al-Qaeda-linked rebel groups operating in Syria.

http://rt.com/op-edge/proof-syrian-chemical-weapons-strike-159/

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US, UK should show Syria chemical weapons intel to Russia - ex-British Navy chief (Original Post) dipsydoodle Aug 2013 OP
I think we should wait JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #1
Is this The Onion? GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #2
Spithead dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #3
"I stand by my actions I took to protect the lives of my men in Iraq in 2003" joshcryer Aug 2013 #4
So, they showed the new dicey dossier to the Russians, but can't release it to the US people? leveymg Aug 2013 #5
No, he's saying they should show it to the Russians, and to people in general muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #7
Can't reveal sources and methods, so it wouldn't be credible anyway. FarCenter Aug 2013 #6
I call BS on that excuse - we already know the source was IDF Unit 8200, the Israeli NSA. leveymg Aug 2013 #8
And Iran. KamaAina Aug 2013 #9

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
1. I think we should wait
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 07:21 AM
Aug 2013

Just wait. And not show Russia anything until a time where it is absolutely necessary. I would rather we take an approach of: if you do business with or support Syria in any way - then we can't deal with you. Silence is golden. We don't have to do anything.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. Spithead
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 08:13 AM
Aug 2013
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spithead

Spithead, roadstead, at the entrance of Portsmouth harbour, Hants, extending 2 miles NW. and SE. along the SW. side of the Spit Sand, with an average breadth of 1½ mile; its natural advantages for safe anchorage, and its vicinity to the great naval establishments of Portsmouth, have made it a favourite rendezvous of the British fleet, and the system of fortifications intended for the defence of Portsmouth harbour and dockyards is also designed as a protection for the roadstead at Spithead, a term which is often applied, in a more extended sense, to the whole of the channel which separates the NE. coast of the Isle of Wight from the mainland of Hants.

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/23997


leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. So, they showed the new dicey dossier to the Russians, but can't release it to the US people?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 09:11 AM
Aug 2013

This buildup to war is beyond absurd.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
7. No, he's saying they should show it to the Russians, and to people in general
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:13 PM
Aug 2013
I think also that we need to see the hard intelligence that the UK and US believe they have to show the regime did actually carry out this appalling atrocity. If we have got this evidence, I think we should show that and display it because people don’t trust this sort of information anymore. Then I think we should sit down with the Russians and say: “Right, you think it was the opposition that did it, let’s sit down and look at all this intelligence here and when we can prove it is one or the other. Then that will be the position.” If we can prove it’s the regime we can say: “Right, it’s the regime,” then I think we should go to the UN Security Council and say to them we believe we need a Security Council resolution. And I imagine Russia and China, if Russia has admitted that actually the intelligence and the evidence shows it was the regime, will abstain.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. I call BS on that excuse - we already know the source was IDF Unit 8200, the Israeli NSA.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:36 PM
Aug 2013

That was revealed 2 says ago. We already know the Syrian Defense Minister expressed extreme displeasure to the unit commander. So, why do we still have no public disclosure of that intercept?

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