READ: U.S. Intelligence Assessment On Syria

[ProSense]

READ: U.S. Intelligence Assessment On Syria

More than 1,400 people were killed in a chemical weapons attack in Syria earlier this month, including 426 children, according to an unclassified U.S. intelligence assessment released by the U.S. on Friday.

Read it below:

U.S. Syria Intelligence Assessment

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/us-syrian-chemical-attack-killed-1-429-including

[dkf]

1. Oh so you support this proposed action then? Surprise surprise.

[Just Saying]

2. Hair-trigger pile on.

He or she didn't say she supported any action and Kerry didn't propose anything specific.

Debate issues not posters. It's beyond old.

[dkf]

4. Well it's not like I'm going to bomb her based on my assumptions due to pattern of behavior.

If there is a denial I sure would love to see it. Note there is none, just deflection.

[ProSense]

6. You're talking about "pattern of behavior"? You mean like being against Medicare? n/t

[dkf]

14. I'm for single payer Canada style.

[ProSense]

23. Yeah, yeah. LOL! n/t

[dkf]

31. You ever examined out of pocket medicare expenses? Several hundred thousand.

Plus the government kicks in MORE than that. Inefficient and way too expensive. That has ALWAYS been my problem with our health care system.

[Just Saying]

9. You mean exactly what you did?

Prosense posted a link to a document. You shouldn't assume and attack. Funnier still, YOU haven't posted anything about the issue, just about the poster. LAME!

[dkf]

21. Yeah I'm pulling an Obama on her. Lol.

[Just Saying]

24. Still nothing on the issue huh?

Typical.

[dkf]

32. That IS a comment on the issue in an oblique way.

But you didn't get it.

[Just Saying]

38. Ok I'll bite

Since you put forth some effort.

What is President Obama assuming about Syria?

[ProSense]

3. What "proposed action"? There

is support for a strike, I'm just pointing out who does support it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023559892#post4

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023559892#post69

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023559892#post82

[pnwmom]

10. You didn't ask Caterina why she posted the same piece and imply that

posting it meant she was supporting an attack.

Posting a government statement doesn't mean you're supporting it.

As you well know.

[Logical]

36. LOL, you can't tell the difference between those two posters. n-t

[pnwmom]

37. One of the problems here lately is that so many people want to make things personal.

They posted the same piece and they should have been treated the same.

[Logical]

39. Based on past history I disagree. Agenda matters. Think about it and get back to me. n-t

[LordGlenconner]

15. Just out of curiousity what's your threshold for war on Syria?

Would you need to see bodies of dead children with foam coming out of their mouths, their arms and legs frozen from rigor mortis?

What's the cutoff, exactly?

I'm opposed to ANY action for the record, but I also reserve the right not to be obstinate.

[dkf]

25. What's coming if Al Qaeda types take over Syria? Better? What is our risk with Assad vs Al Qaeda?

Then there WILL be a full fledged war in Syria. It's a stupid war with horrible "allies".

[Dr Fate]

5. I am glad that Obama is saying that we need to raise taxes on the wealthy in order to pay for this.

Or not.

I'm cool either way.

How about you?

[ProSense]

8. Pay for what? Also, it seems

like you missed the RW-debate about Libya.

[Dr Fate]

12. If war this is a freebie, then even better.

I'm behind it either way.

Also, I only agree with the Right Wing when Obama or kerry agrees with them. Or you.

[ProSense]

13. What are you talking about? n/t

[Dr Fate]

19. About how I am glad that the poor and middle class will pay for this new war.

God knows, now is NOT the time for Obama to be telling us how he plans on paying for this, or talking about raising taxes on the job creators.

Especially when we already know how we are going to pay for it- borrowing from China and taxing the middle class.

Liberals need to chill- he's already got the bill figured out.

[ProSense]

22. That makes no sense. n/t

[Dr Fate]

28. We at least agree that Obama should not say that the top 1% should pay the bill.

In other words- you and I are both okay with Obama if he does not propose raising taxes on the wealthy in order to pay for this new war.

If not- you can say so. Your centrist credentials will still be intact as far as I'm concerend.

[Dr Fate]

7. We need to fight them over there before we fight them over here.

Or, we could do both if they decide to hit back.

I'm totally on board with this either way.

[WilliamPitt]

11. Are you convinced?

[ProSense]

17. Are you?

More important, is this going to convince your Senators?

Mass. senators urge caution on Syria action
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023551994

You should really worry about that, and not what I'm thinking.

[Junkdrawer]

16. Heck, I was banking on "We discovered a false-flag attack by US/Israeli trained special forces."

But I guess the Israelis and the US saying it was Assad proves that wrong.

[Aerows]

18. Even the Command officers

say this would be a very different military exercise in that it wouldn't be guerrilla warfare, but conventional. I'm not saying that they are unprepared by any means to thwart any threat to the United States, they are.

What I AM saying is this is folly to get involved as has every privately interviewed military commander. The President might be CIC, but he depends on the military to execute CONGRESS'S will, not his. Otherwise, that would make him a king.

[Just Saying]

20. I don't automatically dismiss Kerry's words

Because I don't automatically distrust government. Nor do I agree with the comparisons to Powell. I've always respected Kerry and have some faith in what he says.

That being said, I'm still not in favor of getting involved and killing more citizens because this happened. I just don't know what we can do punish those responsible. And there doesn't appear to be a side for us to be on, nor should we get involved anyway, in this civil war. None of the above!

Ugly situation any way you slice it.

[Dr Fate]

29. Me either. He was certainly on point about going to war with Iraq and Afghanistan.

3 is the charm, if you ask me.

[HappyMe]

34. I agree.

[Douglas Carpenter]

26. October 2002 - National Intelligence Estimate - Iraq's Continuing Program for Weapons of Mass

Destruction:

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB129/nie.pdf

[msongs]

27. when you're done reading this, read the bush report on Iraq's WMDs. nt

[curlyred]

33. This.

[Dr Fate]

30. The more I read, the more this guy looks just like Hitler.

I'm suprised he has not tried to kill Obama's dad.

And just like when we fought Hitler/Saddam, the burden and price of this war should fall on the poor and middle class.

Yup- this one is just like WWII/Iraq too.

[Logical]

35. Fuck, here we go again. And it had been so nice. n-t