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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:29 PM Aug 2013

Federal court will hear constitutional challenge to ‘No Fly List’

A federal court has ruled constitutional rights are at stake when the government places Americans on its No Fly List, a small victory for those who say the opaque process is illegal.

The lawsuit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on behalf of 13 plaintiffs (four of which are military veterans), challenges the means by which one can get off the list, calling the process unfair, inadequate and unconstitutional.

The No Fly List consists of thousands of individuals not worthy of arrest, but deemed too dangerous to fly commercially to or from the U.S. or over American airspace. Yet the individuals are not told why they have been added to the list, nor do they have real means for getting off the list. The only way to be sure one is or is not on the list is purchasing a plane ticket and attempting to board a flight.

The ACLU says this process violates the Fifth Amendment, in that the government cannot deprive a person of liberty "without due process of law."

In May 2011, the US district court originally dismissed the case on jurisdictional grounds, stating the Transportation Security Administration should have been subject to the suit given the agency handles the redress process for any traveler denied boarding a plane. Last summer, the 9th Circuit Appeals Court reversed the district court's dismissal, and now the U.S. District Court for the District of Oregon is considering the case on its merits.

http://rt.com/usa/challenge-no-fly-list-187/

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Federal court will hear constitutional challenge to ‘No Fly List’ (Original Post) dipsydoodle Aug 2013 OP
A link below to an American article Tx4obama Aug 2013 #1
RT USA is an American article. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #3
Russia Today has been locked a few times in LBN. I think an American new agency is better. Tx4obama Aug 2013 #4
We had noticed that. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #5
Good I got fucked over with this also gopiscrap Aug 2013 #2

gopiscrap

(23,726 posts)
2. Good I got fucked over with this also
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 02:37 PM
Aug 2013

I was getting ready to go on a flight to Minneapolis for the Repuke convention and was told that I was on the no fly list. Lost 300.00 funny thing was I had to fly about 3 months later and sure enough I wasn't on it!

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