Now that Obama is finally imitating FDR, the Far Left is STILL complaining about him.

[Dr Fate]

We all remember how the far-left of DU kept wishing that Obama acted more like that musty, crusty old racist- FDR.

They were not content when Obama decided that non-racists like Reagan (R), Lincoln (R) or Nixon (R) would make better, more moderate, more non-racist models to follow.

Well- now that he is acting like just like FDR and going after the Hitler of Egypt- they STILL complain.

Egypt is just like Pearl harbor- and FDR would have bombed the crap out of it- and the far left KNOWS this.

FDR knew that the middle class and poor would have to make sacrifices, and Obama knows this too.

This proves that the far left will just attack Obama and disagree with him no matter what he does or does not do- even when he does what FDR would have done.

[avaistheone1]

1. Lol

Thanks for the laugh.

[joeybee12]

84. I know...it's so ludicrous!

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. This is one hell of a stretch

[workinclasszero]

105. Thats for sure! LOLOLOLZ! /nt

[CJCRANE]

3. I think you mean "Syria" not "Egypt".

If you don't know the difference between the two you may need to rethink your thesis.

[Dr Fate]

7. FDR/Obama would not have gotten hung up on semantics.

Nice try though.

[CJCRANE]

10. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[PoliticAverse]

33. Forget it, the OP's rolling... n/t

[DisgustipatedinCA]

61. Semantics...I love it.

I can see the newspapers now:

"...Defense Department officials say it was a semantics error that led to the destruction of 80 percent of Cairo..."

[Fozzledick]

72. Yeah, it's all the fault of those dirty rotten Semantics!

I blame Noam Chomsky.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

73. It took me a few posts to understand that Doctor F was just having fun with us, TWM-style

Anyway, have a great weekend.

[FiveGoodMen]

81. I don't think anti-Semantic posts are allowed here

[HardTimes99]

89. Are you telling me you're anti-semantic? I thought that violated DU's ToS :) - nt

[Bluenorthwest]

96. Wow, openly anti-semantic.

nt

[Eleanors38]

118. I had constipation for 5 days. No more!

[enlightenment]

5. Umm.

You have slipped off the rails on this one, champ.

[Dr Fate]

11. I am happy to ride off a cliff as long as FDR and Obama are in the car with me.

LOL! I guess FDR is not the liberal hero after all- unless he is doing radical socialist stuff.

[enlightenment]

16. You can't see me,

but I'm shaking my head in a sorrowful way.

It's sad to watch someone embarrass themselves this way.

[Dr Fate]

26. I'm glad to embarass myself it means that Freedom will ring.

I will not stop "embarassing myself" until every boy and girl from here to Tim-Buk-Tu feels the winds of freedom blowing through their hair.

[enlightenment]

39. Damn.

I am REALLY hoping that I have been sucked into a very well-done bit of satire. Please tell me that's so.

I can applaud that.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

49. Freedom wil reign!

Also..

I will not stop "embarassing myself" until every boy and girl from here to Tim-Buk-Tu feels the winds of freedom blowing through their hair.

What if these boys or girls have alopecia?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. The "Far Left" (EEK!) believes that public servants should be held accountable.

[cyberswede]

8. Um...what?

[SomethingFishy]

9. Those assholes.

Man you'd think when something like Pearl Harbor happens those fucking peacniks would get with the program... I mean programming.

Especially if that "Pearl Harbor" event took place in Egypt.. I mean Iraq.. I mean Pakistan..

[Skittles]

45. STOP IT SOMETHINGFISHY

[n2doc]

101. And if the Germans bombed it. n/t

[SomethingFishy]

104. Hehe.. Forget it he's rolling...

[LanternWaste]

12. You will of course expound on this premise...?

Egypt is just like Pearl harbor- and FDR would have bombed the crap out of it..."

You will of course expound on this premise, and illustrate to us the relevant similarities (as when Cairo (or Aleppo?) bombed Pearl Harbor and invaded Dutch Indochina, or some such), with objective sources cited for this rather extraordinary claim of yours, yes?

[Dr Fate]

15. No problem, The point is that FDR and Obama both knew a just war when they saw it.

And the far left cant stand it that they now have lost the "Obama should be more like FDR " argument.

Now that he IS doing exactly what FDR would have done, the Far left still complains.

It proves what hyppocrites they all must be.

[MNBrewer]

19. Egypt attacked Pearl Harbor

? huh?

[Dr Fate]

24. Fine. People with funny hats then. That should cover it all.You wont fools me with semantics tricks.

nt

[cyberswede]

50. I don't think the far left has lost the "Obama should be more like FDR" argument at all.

Obama SHOULD be more like FDR in a whole bunch of ways.

[Dr Fate]

52. Well, he is in fact imitating FDR on this. Will you support his FDR style stance?

Unless hypocrisy is a far left value, I guess this means you have to support Obama if he bombs Syria.

GOTCHA!!!!!

[cyberswede]

58. I don't get it.

I don't think real life is all or nothing, as you suggest. People can agree with some things, and disagree with other things (even about FDR) without being hypocrites.

And why do you think FDR would bomb Syria?

[Dr Fate]

59. I accept your concession.

nt

[dreamnightwind]

78. Stop, you're killing me

Too funny. Colbert would approve.

[truedelphi]

117. Plus there is also the problem that I am sure the writer of the OP

Meant Syria rather than Egypt??

And for many of us, Obama now does remind us of a former President. Problem being, the former President he reminds us of is most certainly not FDR.

FDR despised the banking class, and helped the formulation of the Glass Steagall legislation, which prevented the Biggest Financial Firms from becoming gamblers.

Under Obama, we have the appointment of Tim Geithner, who has actively opposed any re-instating of Glass Steagall. Until this happens (and it won't unless we somehow get ourselves an Elizabeth Warren Presidency,) our nation's "Top Banks" will continue to grab 49 cents out of every dollar of profit created in this country. (During FDR's era, only 3 cents out of every dollar of profit went to banks.)

[WilliamPitt]

13. So much Fail

So so so much Fail.

[CJCRANE]

14. To be honest I think Obama made a reasonable and measured statement

but I'm not sure that applies to Kerry, or Cameron or Hague (in the UK).

[Dr Fate]

21. And when he does not bomb Syria, the far left will look like fools for saying he was gonna do it.

Or, if he does bomb Syria, then they will still be hypocrites for disagreeing with what their hero, FDR would have done.


It's a lose-lose for the far left and a win-win for the majority/moderate voters either way.

[MNBrewer]

17. you forgot something

this

[whatchamacallit]

18. This somehow got recs

Astonishing

[reformist2]

20. From 0 to Godwin in 1 post!

[LearningCurve]

62. The first thing Hitler did when he was elected

Was repeal Godwin's Law. FDR and Obama know tyranny when they see it.

[Eleanors38]

119. Beat Garlits & Muldowney both in the quarter mile!

[tkmorris]

22. Manny does it better

[CJCRANE]

27. Ah...I get it now.

I thought cocktail hour had started early.

[Dr Fate]

29. Manny disagrees with me in the very thread.

So I have no idea what you could mean by that.

[dionysus]

44. no, Dr Fate is way better at it than Manny.

[Hissyspit]

55. LOL

[Mnpaul]

106. I had to scroll up and check

at first I thought it was another rant from third way Manny.

[MannyGoldstein]

23. One of us needs to read more history

FDR worked on the American People for several year in order to prep us for war - see his fireside chats, for example.

[Dr Fate]

28. So get reading then.

Obama gives speeches about fredom too- and his are not tinged by racism.

Maybe you need to read about how FDR supported lynching.

I'm glad that Obama refused to imitate FDR and instead imitated non racists like Reagan and Nixon.

On this issue, he imitates all 3- something for everyone, yet the liberals still complain.

[MannyGoldstein]

34. OK, let's take those one at a time: speeches "tinged by racism"

Examples?

Thanks.

[Dr Fate]

37. You read and posted on all the old FDR vs. Obama posts that were on DU.

So you know as well as I do that FDR refused to do anything about lynching laws.

This is why all the DUers excpet for you were relieved when he decided that Reagan and Nixon were better, non-racist role models.

Except for this issue-where Obama IS inspired by FDR- and you still complain.

[MannyGoldstein]

71. Perhaps I'm getting old and senile

but I don't recall what you're talking about. Do you have a link?

[MannyGoldstein]

74. Ah. Got me!

Good job.

[socialist_n_TN]

25. Is this an "Onion" post?.........

Reagan and Nixon were non racists??? Not sure about Lincoln, but considering the times and a few things I've read, yeah, he was probably a racist too. Although since he corresponded with Karl Marx, he might have been coming off that racism shit.

Anyway, that was what led me to believe this was satire. It WAS satire wasn't it? DOG, I hope so.

[Dr Fate]

31. Go back and read the old Obama vs. FDR posts on DU.

You will fnd that the main reason we do not want Obama to imitate FDR is b/c he was a racist.

Thank god Obama choose moderate, non-racist role models instead.

[Skittles]

30. I......er.......what is this?

this is pitiful

[LiberalAndProud]

32. We need a

'this post is satire' smiley.

Well done, Dr Fate.

[daa]

35. FDR gave us social security -- Obama is NO FDR nt

[Dr Fate]

42. He is on the issue of bombing the Hilters of the world.

n/t

[daa]

51. Spending social security and Medicare on missles is stupid

so is equating Assad to Hitler. Little hyperbole huh?

[Dr Fate]

56. I think that if FDR were alive today, he would agree with me & Obama, not you.

Except where he is racist.

FDR knew that bombing Hitler was just as- if not MORE important than SS- and Obama is arguably in line with those thoughts as well.

On this issue- you are getting FDR- but this time without the racism. Seems like a win-win to me.

[daa]

68. Nice try

all he will do is displace 10s of thousands and plunge us into recession. win-win? I doubt it. Obama couldn't make a pimple on FDRs ass. You have 4000 vets from the ongoing wars already laying around in Atlanta without care how about taking care of them?

[bluestate10]

88. Go read up on the Social Security that FDR gave "us". Social Security as you know it was

given to you by the Presidents that came after FDR, up to Reagan. Even Nixon made good changes to Social Security. During Reagan through Bush II, Social Security has been under attack. Clinton was neutral on SS, but he did turn back some republican attacks on SS.

[mick063]

36. The Far left?

[Fozzledick]

76. Another contender...

Three gents were drinking apple martinis in a bar
and had gotten to the stage of arguing about details.

"I tell you it's spelled W-O-O-M," the first said loudly.

"No no, no," the second protested. "It's W-O-O-O-M.'

"You're both wrong," the third ventured.
"I say it's W-O-O-M-B."

A gynecologst passing spoke up. "You're getting close," she told them. "Actually, it's W-O-M-B."

They stared at her a moment, then stared at each other. Finally one spoke:
"Madam," he said, "it's obvious that you've never heard an elephant fart."

[HardTimes99]

38. Some wit (Mark Twain or Ambrose Bierce) quipped that war is

America's opportunity to learn geography.

Please take advantage of this opportunity.

[Dr Fate]

47. Moderates dont care if it is Egypt or Syria.

Maybe if the far left went to bolwing alleys and church picnics to hear what MODERATES say-instead of Marx readings and organic markets they would know that.

Same damn difference. We need to knock some chips off some shoulders.

[HardTimes99]

87. A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing - nt

[Union Scribe]

111. Damn, you had me.

Hook line sinker.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

67. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." Ambrose Bierce

[dennis4868]

40. Great post!

AGREE 100%

[blkmusclmachine]

41. Fixed it for you ...

[Logical]

43. I am drunk too! n-t

[Dr Fate]

48. At least we dont have to boy-cott French wine this time around.

Freedom Wine indeed!

[bobclark86]

91. Ermehgerd!!!

I won't be able to make the millions back from when I bought www.freedomfries.com. I'm sooo pissed off now. The French can't do ANYTHING right, and FDR knew those French-fried freaks weren't worth saving, but we had to crush Hitler, even if it meant liberating the French.

[Vashta Nerada]

46. It's never too early to start drinking on a Friday, I guess.

[bowens43]

53. 'far left'? there goes your credibility....take a hike.

[Dr Fate]

54. I'll glady take a "Freedom Hike"- with FDR and Obama as my guides.

n/t

[Hissyspit]

57. I is confused.

Is there popcorn for sale here or not?

[liberal_at_heart]

60. get back to me when Obama gets rid of Race to the Top and actually starts funding schools.

[Dr Fate]

63. I think he will fund schools in Syria.

Just like he does in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Hello? Do you even read the news? He IS TOO funding schools.

And when he does paint the schools in Syria, you will complain about that too.

[woo me with science]

64. Whose law is that again?

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The one about parody?

'Cuz I couldn't even tell this from the real stuff.

[tblue37]

86. Poe's Law. This thread is satire--but it has Colberted a lot of DUers! nt

[woo me with science]

109. Thank you.

DU is an excellent teacher of Poe's Law.

[progressoid]

65. Oh dear god...

[Dr Fate]

66. That poor man must have ingested chemical weapons!

Goodness, if I was not convinced before, I certainly am now.

[bvar22]

70. Too subtle for some.

DURec.

[RainDog]

75. LOL

[Rex]

77. That's some funny shit!

[Dr Fate]

80. FREEDOM KICK!!!!!

!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

82. What's with the hippie punching today?

Are neolibs that worried? I guess.

And the lack of actual historical context is no longer shocking

[ProSense]

83. Of course, if Obama were like FDR and bombed a city like Dresden

"Now that Obama is finally imitating FDR, the Far Left is STILL complaining about him."

...the "Far Left" would complain that he's trying to one-up FDR and steal his legacy.

[Bluenorthwest]

98. And with that you get the Margaret DuMont Award.

nt

[Dr Fate]

114. FDR was a WAR CRIMINAL! (But I hope Obama does not imitate that part)

Unless it promotes freedom.

[bluestate10]

85. The real thing will never measure up to a fantasy. FDR, by no means was perfect, not even

close. The far Left is largely revisionist, it sees the policy of today and it projects heroism on FDR, who made many Faustian bargains to get legislation in place.

[socialist_n_TN]

92. Well the REAL "far left" now AND in the 30s.....

considered Roosevelt a bourgeois pretender who was attempting to save capitalism from itself. To give credit where it's due, he did exactly that. For a while.

And that ain't "revisionist". That's EXACTLY what the real "far left" believed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

94. This is what they are complaining

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023540472

Apparently knowing the real history of the period is far left revisionism

[leftstreet]

95. +1 Which means Obama really is a lot like FDR

Just not the way people think



[center][/center]

[MineralMan]

112. That's quite true. The thing is that

pretty much everyone who actually was there during FDR's terms in office is dead. So we forget. The FDR most talk about has little to do with the real FDR, I'm afraid. But, nobody remembers anyhow, so it doesn't matter so much.

[RobertEarl]

90. Lets just keep our fingers crossed

And pray that this country never has another Pearl Harbor type event.

And as for the govt. confusing Egypt and Syria, I'm sure it can be explained as an honest mistake caused by zipcodes being close.

[LWolf]

93. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023497526

[polichick]

97. This is a joke, right?

[Bluenorthwest]

99. What is really is is parody.

nt

[polichick]

100. Yes, that's the word for it.

[David__77]

102. Going to war with Syria would be ultra-leftist and Bolshevist.

This understanding of the political spectrum would be interesting, if not made in jest. Trying to foment a "global democratic revolution" is ultra-leftist. It is akin to Troskyism and Bolshevism.

Edited upon realizing my irony radar is offline today...

[kestrel91316]

103. I'm on the far left and I don't think I have ever attacked Obama.

Yes, I am mightily disappointed in him on some days and for some reasons, but I am completely in love with him on other days and for other reasons. He's not perfect. But he's one hell of a lot better than any of the alternatives.

So you may kindly go suck an egg. The broad brush isn't helpful.

[AgingAmerican]

107. "Far Left"

Sounds like something on Freerepublic.

[Dr Fate]

108. FREEDOM KICK!!!!!

!!!

[mick063]

113. Shove that far left shit where the sun don't shine.

I'm working overtime to beat Democrats like you.

I'll would rather align with Libertarians than the OP and I despise Rand Paul.





How did I do?

[Dr Fate]

115. You are just mad that centrism is working. nt

nt

[Zorra]

116. FDR was really a far right austerian corporatist fascist who hated the idea of a social

safety net.

The only reason he started social security was so that the people would support war!

[Dr Fate]

120. It's a good thing Obama does not imitate him on anything else.

nt

[Demo_Chris]

121. WTF did I just read? nt