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For fucks sake! People/kids are dying in Syria from chemicals & MSNBC's already talking oil prices! (Original Post) Tx4obama Aug 2013 OP
I bet you do! MNBrewer Aug 2013 #1
So you think the talking heads discussing oil prices is really illuminating? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #3
No offense, but yeah. Aerows Aug 2013 #11
Aerows, my point is… talkingheads can talk about oil PRICES on tv but the conversation never goes KittyWampus Aug 2013 #28
Has it occurred to you that it is because Aerows Aug 2013 #30
Holy shit. HappyMe Aug 2013 #9
What about the kids in North Korea, Somalia, Myramar, and so many more? TeamPooka Aug 2013 #14
How many you got? Glassunion Aug 2013 #26
let me explain this to you really simply cali Aug 2013 #23
That's a callous comment. There's nothing wrong with being concerned about kids in a war zone n/t Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #12
What's wrong is trying to distract us from the consequences of our war making MNBrewer Aug 2013 #21
+1000000000 woo me with science Aug 2013 #25
I wish they'd get back to the NSA. This is obviously all Wag The Dog. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #2
Yeah. I saw pictures and HappyMe Aug 2013 #4
Don't you know gopiscrap Aug 2013 #5
We have returned to worshipping Moloch (if we ever really stopped) deutsey Aug 2013 #17
Obama Consults Oil Experts As He Weighs Action Against Syria PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #6
kids are dying ffs!!1 what is obama thinking?! frylock Aug 2013 #16
But it has nothing whatsoever to do with oil Aerows Aug 2013 #31
DU has essentially been doing the same thing. Skidmore Aug 2013 #7
Kids die everday in Iraq and Afghanastan nt daa Aug 2013 #8
And Pakistan and Yemen (where else are we launching drone ops?) NightWatcher Aug 2013 #13
+1 daa Aug 2013 #18
And for many, many months in Syria before these particular children. The only thing that Squinch Aug 2013 #33
Follow the money. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #10
There has been like a hundred thousand deaths in Syria and nobody gave doc03 Aug 2013 #15
it's not like kids from low-income families here in america will be effected by rising gas prices.. frylock Aug 2013 #19
Come on, let's get our war on! Lets send some Red,White and Blue Peace missiles from the USA neverforget Aug 2013 #20
Could be worse. Assad could cut off their Food Assistance leftstreet Aug 2013 #22
Americans dont care when our drones kill children in the mid-east... davidn3600 Aug 2013 #24
The corporate pro-war propaganda is shameless and has no credibilty anymore. nt woo me with science Aug 2013 #27
You expect the M$M do give a crap about human life!? Rex Aug 2013 #29
To be fair, the M$M has covered the deaths (many) of both adults and children. I am surprised madinmaryland Aug 2013 #32
Why should they care... brooklynite Aug 2013 #34

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
1. I bet you do!
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:41 PM
Aug 2013

It's not about oil... it's NEVER about oil. Won't someone PLEEEEEEASE think of the children??

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. No offense, but yeah.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:57 PM
Aug 2013

It's not like there isn't a precedent, and that's not sarcasm, that's history.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
28. Aerows, my point is… talkingheads can talk about oil PRICES on tv but the conversation never goes
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:28 PM
Aug 2013

any deeper.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. Has it occurred to you that it is because
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:32 PM
Aug 2013

it really doesn't matter any further than that?

I worked in the financial industry for a time. It really doesn't matter much more than that because that is how they base trading in stocks. That is the basis of how your goods get transported, sold and distributed. It's also the basis for how the military moves since they are the largest purchaser of oil derivatives.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
9. Holy shit.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:55 PM
Aug 2013

So fuck those kids because after all, they're just Syrians. Not lovely blond, blue eyed murikan kids.

Jesus fucking Christ.

TeamPooka

(24,209 posts)
14. What about the kids in North Korea, Somalia, Myramar, and so many more?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:00 PM
Aug 2013

How many countries should we bomb and invade so they do things our way?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. let me explain this to you really simply
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:17 PM
Aug 2013

children and civilians will continue to casualties in this civil war. The rebel cry is one for genocide and they've already killed lots of civilians as has the Assad regime. U.S. missile strikes won't stop it and could even make it worse.

and actually, there are quite a few blond blue eyed Syrians. In any case, most Syrians look no less white than Italians.

fuck, try to inform yourself.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Are+syrians+white&authuser=0&gl=us&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Vv0gUq73HJPQsATArIDgCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=519#authuser=0&gl=us&hl=en&q=+syrians&tbm=isch

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. That's a callous comment. There's nothing wrong with being concerned about kids in a war zone n/t
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:57 PM
Aug 2013

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
21. What's wrong is trying to distract us from the consequences of our war making
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:09 PM
Aug 2013

while manipulating us into it.

It's a classic of misdirection.

What about the children? What will I tell my children? Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. I wish they'd get back to the NSA. This is obviously all Wag The Dog.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:42 PM
Aug 2013


There are so many things I wish they'd talk about but they never will.

And who knows, maybe fluctuations in oil prices will convince our Chief Executive to not fire missiles.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
4. Yeah. I saw pictures and
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:43 PM
Aug 2013

video of the burned kids and adults on the noon news.
I just can't even begin to imagine what that is like.

gopiscrap

(23,726 posts)
5. Don't you know
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:44 PM
Aug 2013

it's all about the fucking money. Our nation as descended to caring only about money! Fuck people, fuck the common good, fuck the environment...business has been given the green light to frame the conversation and when that happens pure rampant unmitigated greed takes over!

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
17. We have returned to worshipping Moloch (if we ever really stopped)
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:01 PM
Aug 2013

What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed open their skulls and ate up
their brains and imagination?
Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Chil-
dren screaming under the stairways! Boys sobbing in armies! Old
men weeping in the parks!
Moloch! Moloch! Nightmare of Moloch! Moloch the loveless! Mental Mo-
loch! Moloch the heavy judger of men!
Moloch the incomprehensible prison! Moloch the crossbone soulless jail-
house and Congress of sorrows! Moloch whose buildings are judg-
ment! Moloch the vast stone of war! Moloch the stunned govern-
ments!
Moloch whose mind is pure machinery! Moloch whose blood is running
money! Moloch whose fingers are ten armies! Moloch whose breast
is a cannibal dynamo! Moloch whose ear is a smoking tomb!
Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Moloch whose skyscrap-
ers stand in the long streets like endless Jehovahs! Moloch whose
factories dream and croak in the fog! Moloch whose smokestacks and
antennae crown the cities!
Moloch whose love is endless oil and stone! Moloch whose soul is electricity
and banks! Moloch whose poverty is the specter of genius! Moloch
whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen! Moloch whose name is the
Mind!
Moloch in whom I sit lonely! Moloch in whom I dream Angels! Crazy in
Moloch! Cocksucker in Moloch! Lacklove and manless in Moloch!
Moloch who entered my soul early! Moloch in whom I am a consciousness
without a body! Moloch who frightened me out of my natural ec-
stasy! Moloch whom I abandon! Wake up in Moloch! Light stream-
ing out of the sky!
Moloch! Moloch! Robot apartments! invisible suburbs! skeleton treasuries!
blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible mad houses
granite cocks! monstrous bombs!
They broke their backs lifting Moloch to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios,
tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us!
Visions! omens! hallucinations! miracles! ecstasies! gone down the American
river!
Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions! the whole boatload of sensitive
bullshit!
Breakthroughs! over the river! flips and crucifixions! gone down the flood!
Highs! Epiphanies! Despairs! Ten years' animal screams and suicides!
Minds! New loves! Mad generation! down on the rocks of Time!
Real holy laughter in the river! They saw it all! the wild eyes! the holy yells!
They bade farewell! They jumped off the roof to solitude! waving! carrying
flowers! Down to the river! into the street!

"Howl Pt. 2" Allen Ginsberg

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. Obama Consults Oil Experts As He Weighs Action Against Syria
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:47 PM
Aug 2013

WASHINGTON, Aug 29 (Reuters) - Obama administration officials have contacted energy experts in recent days to discuss oil market conditions as the president weighs a military strike against Syria, sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

There are no signs the government is preparing to tap emergency oil reserves soon in a bid to tame rising prices, according to the sources who spoke with Reuters this week, though the administration is closely monitoring the situation.

Fears about Syria's civil war spilling over into other countries have helped propel international oil prices to their highest level in six months, rising more than $8 a barrel since the beginning of the month, and approaching a level that has slowed the global economy in the past.

Read the rest: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/obama-syria-oil_n_3839931.html

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. But it has nothing whatsoever to do with oil
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:42 PM
Aug 2013

Things get to your neighborhood grocery store by magic. The military moves aircraft carriers and aircraft by magic. Your car is filled with magic. When things get delivered to your door, it was fueled by magic. You do business based upon goods, services and your ability to get both of those things there by magic.

That's what some people don't seem to understand or don't want to understand. It sucks, but it's the truth. It's why we are in this mess.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. DU has essentially been doing the same thing.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:51 PM
Aug 2013

War for oil, war for BFEE/PNAC, war for you name it. DUers sometimes only see what they want to see. Biting on every CT dragged by is expected.

I don't want war, but the articulation by Grayson today of some of the sentiments I've seen today on this board left me cold. Just tough these children were massacred. When this sort of atrocity becomes an inconvenience, then you are no better than the despots descried. What makes the killing Syria's children less important than those of other nations. The world should stand back and wait until another Kosovo or Rwanda occurs and then cry that it was too late? Selective outrage will get us nowhere.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
13. And Pakistan and Yemen (where else are we launching drone ops?)
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:58 PM
Aug 2013

Kids suffer everyday HERE yet we cut food stamps and make their parents take drug tests to prove they're not high.

No one really gives a damn about the kids. Kids are used to manipulate the easily moved or soft. Generals don't care about kids when they draw up targets.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
33. And for many, many months in Syria before these particular children. The only thing that
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 05:11 PM
Aug 2013

has changed is that a chemical that was arbitrarily decided to be our line in the sand has been used.

I bet the parents of the children killed last fall and winter and spring would tell those here arguing for the children that the method used to kill them is not a valid distinction.

doc03

(35,296 posts)
15. There has been like a hundred thousand deaths in Syria and nobody gave
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:01 PM
Aug 2013

fuck until they used gas. Those people have been fighting for centuries over there, it's not our fight.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
19. it's not like kids from low-income families here in america will be effected by rising gas prices..
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:03 PM
Aug 2013

those people scraping for gas money to get to their minimum wage job(s) are just selfish.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
20. Come on, let's get our war on! Lets send some Red,White and Blue Peace missiles from the USA
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:08 PM
Aug 2013

and blow some shit up! Sure it may kill some more children and adults but who cares! We have to do something!

leftstreet

(36,101 posts)
22. Could be worse. Assad could cut off their Food Assistance
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:14 PM
Aug 2013

Or cut off their heating subsidies in winter, or throw their parents out of public housing or into jail for drug use



Think of the children !!!111 my fucking ass

The US has no moral high ground here

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
24. Americans dont care when our drones kill children in the mid-east...
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:22 PM
Aug 2013

...so why would we care if Assad kills them?

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
32. To be fair, the M$M has covered the deaths (many) of both adults and children. I am surprised
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:56 PM
Aug 2013

that they have not discussed the possibility of rising oil prices until now. We all know that whenever there is instability in that region, oil prices go up.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
34. Why should they care...
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 05:14 PM
Aug 2013

...a fair number of people here don't seem to.

Either its all a fabrication or "it's not our responsibility".

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