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madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 09:18 PM Aug 2013

Connecticut man shoots self while biking and claims it was hoodie-wearing ‘gang’

A Connecticut man, who accidentally shot himself while riding a bicycle, was arrested this week after lying to police and saying that a “gang” of men wearing black hoodies had attacked him.

The Connecticut Post reported that Stratford police were notified on Thursday that 22-year-old Wendell Docteur was being treated for a gunshot wound to his right leg. Docteur told officers that he was riding his bike “when he was confronted by a half dozen men, dressed all in black with hooded sweatshirts covering their faces,” according to the paper.

Docteur claimed that the gang had robbed him of his money and then yelled, “North End, North End,” as they fled. The North End is a neighborhood in Bridgeport.

But Docteur finally admitted that the gun in his waistband had gone off and he had shot himself after he was not able to explain why there was only a hole where the bullet exited from his pants. He was also not able to tell police what happened to his handgun after the incident.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/30/connecticut-man-shoots-self-while-biking-and-claims-it-was-hoodie-wearing-gang/

Another responsible gun owner (douchebag) who was responsible until he was not.

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Connecticut man shoots self while biking and claims it was hoodie-wearing ‘gang’ (Original Post) madinmaryland Aug 2013 OP
He shot himself in the foot , with that story . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #1
And another racist scumbag malaise Aug 2013 #2
Where do you get that from? HolyMoley Aug 2013 #4
Why jump in over that? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #7
Why jump in over that? HolyMoley Aug 2013 #12
Bridgeport is minority-majority krispos42 Aug 2013 #10
I'll trust your knowledge here. HolyMoley Aug 2013 #14
It's not an unreasonable assumption krispos42 Aug 2013 #17
And yet HolyMoley Aug 2013 #20
I didn't follow those two stories krispos42 Aug 2013 #22
Not a problem HolyMoley Aug 2013 #25
It's playing on the assumption that the perpetrators were black krispos42 Aug 2013 #27
Did the perpetrators in those cases try to accuse whites of committing the crime? lolly Aug 2013 #30
Dude! I lived in CT for twenty years and actually lived in the "North End" IT IS FUCKING RACIST madinmaryland Aug 2013 #15
So, therefore, this particular incident is racist. HolyMoley Aug 2013 #18
How do you know that? Sadly you don't seem to get it and are just twisting yourself in madinmaryland Aug 2013 #19
By "your experience", I meant YOUR experience HolyMoley Aug 2013 #23
do you have graphs and charts olddots Aug 2013 #31
What do you mean by "double standard bullshit?" alphafemale Aug 2013 #34
God 47of74 Aug 2013 #3
Sounds like a gungeoneer, many of them can't ride a bike without a gun. Hoyt Aug 2013 #5
Shit, Moses2SandyKoufax Aug 2013 #6
Y'know.....the USPS is now letting some letter carriers deliver in plain clothes.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #8
Sadly, this is true. Back before I was banned from the gungeon, I Hoyt Aug 2013 #9
Not all of them are licensed to carry a can of pork and beans like you are rl6214 Aug 2013 #11
And few of them have a 10th degree black belt in bike fu. n/t Common Sense Party Aug 2013 #26
My recently gun converted freeper sister in law bathes with a gun.. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #21
I know someone who takes a snub nose in the shower, "Because that's when you are most vulnerable." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #16
Too bad he didn't shoot himself in the testicles Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #13
"...not able to tell police what happened to his handgun..." ?????? TheMadMonk Aug 2013 #24
Judging from the firearms "experts" i've met Mopar151 Aug 2013 #28
If wonder if he's related to this one... Hippo_Tron Aug 2013 #29
Hoodies "covering their faces"??? Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #32
Another responsible gun owner story! B Calm Aug 2013 #33
 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
4. Where do you get that from?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:33 PM
Aug 2013

Now who's stereotyping?

Nowhere in the article was race, color or ethnicity mentioned.

Pathetic.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
7. Why jump in over that?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:53 PM
Aug 2013

The only pathetic individual is the guy who shot himself and made up a bullshit story.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
12. Why jump in over that?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:23 PM
Aug 2013

WTF?

The person I responded to made an unsubstantiated, biased, stereotyped claim of 'racism' when there is no evidence or proof of that other than the posters vivid imagination... none whatsoever.

What makes it even more amusing, is that the ethnicity of the "victim" in this case (Wendell), isn't being reported. What if "Wendell" turns out to be Black (or another minority), himself?

Yes, Wendell fucked up. He had an accident, got scared and tried to cover his ass.
That's human nature, not racist.

Why jump in over that?

You should be asking the person I responded to that.
Not me.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
10. Bridgeport is minority-majority
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:15 PM
Aug 2013

Or right on the bubble of being so.

It's surrounded on 3 sides by cities and towns that are white, or very white, and on the 4th side by water.



Bridgeport also suffers with chronic poverty, education, and crime problems. Let me put it another way... not a lot of gangs are based in Stratford, Fairfield, or Trumbull.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
14. I'll trust your knowledge here.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:33 PM
Aug 2013

but, that does that justify, or back up a statement like this?...


malaise (109,529 posts)
2. And another racist scumbag

willing to set up Afircan-Americans

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
17. It's not an unreasonable assumption
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:41 PM
Aug 2013

Although it is rather generic... there are lots of other ethnic minorities in Bridgeport with sizable populations.


The "Trayvon Martin" effect in action, I guess.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
20. And yet
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:54 PM
Aug 2013

there was a sizable thread here not that long ago (maybe more than two or three), regarding the murder of the Australian baseball player, and another one regarding the WWII vet that was also murdered, yet it was an "unreasonable assumption" that any of these incidents were racially motivated.

It seems that "The "Trayvon Martin" effect in action" only works in one direction; I guess.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
22. I didn't follow those two stories
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:08 AM
Aug 2013

At the time I was busy with family medical issues of one sort or another. So I can't comment on that with any authority. I know the Aussie was killed by a group of attackers; I don't know the ethnicity of the attackers.

I was generically referring to the practice of blaming fictional black men for crimes.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
25. Not a problem
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:38 AM
Aug 2013

But, what about the problem of fictionally white victims (if the victim was even white), accused of being "racist scum bags willing, to set up Afircan-Americans" simply because it suits another persons perceptions?

That, IMHO, is totally uncalled for and just plain ignorant and racist.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
27. It's playing on the assumption that the perpetrators were black
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:54 AM
Aug 2013

Six guys in hoodies? Gotta be black men!


To be clear, I mean that the guy that shot himself would make that claim knowing that most people would assume minority ethnicity from what he was saying. Especially with a reference to Bridgeport in there.

So, the wounded guy would be fabricating what he perceives of as a typical, plausible story: a group of men acting with a common purpose attacked him, shouting a Bridgeport neighborhood as they left.

Assuming the wounded guy was playing on local demographics to fabricate a believable story might be some kind of racism. But let's not forget that the wounded guy WAS playing on local demographics to cover his ass and imply his attackers were a gang of minorities.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
30. Did the perpetrators in those cases try to accuse whites of committing the crime?
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:22 AM
Aug 2013

Your comparison makes no sense.

People of one race murdering people of another race =/= people who commit a crime, then try to pin it on "scary black people" knowing or at least believing that the police will believe them.

You're right--we don't know the race of the "victim" at this point, but it's disingenuous to claim that "a gang of men in black hoodies" isn't a racially charged description.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
15. Dude! I lived in CT for twenty years and actually lived in the "North End" IT IS FUCKING RACIST
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:34 PM
Aug 2013

what that douchebag said.

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
18. So, therefore, this particular incident is racist.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:43 PM
Aug 2013

Unlike you, the person I responded to doesn't have your experience, he/she just assumed so.



madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
19. How do you know that? Sadly you don't seem to get it and are just twisting yourself in
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:50 PM
Aug 2013

circles trying to get out of what you said.

BTW, you don't think the "hoodie" comment is racist??

 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
23. By "your experience", I meant YOUR experience
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:18 AM
Aug 2013

in Bridgeport, CT.

It's entirely possible that the person i responded to has/had lived there.
I just find it unlikely.

Sadly you don't seem to get it and are just twisting yourself in
circles trying to get out of what you said.


Oh no, I get it quite well, thank you.

I'm way more mature, wizened and experienced enough to see through the double standard bullshit.

BTW, you don't think the "hoodie" comment is racist??

Not at all, not even in the same ballpark.
If you really believe that, then the discussion on racism and race related matters is even more fucked than I thought.

People like you are part of the problem... not the solution.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
34. What do you mean by "double standard bullshit?"
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 08:39 AM
Aug 2013

And by the way, many of us here know what a dog whistle sounds like.

What do you mean by "double standard bullshit?"

I'm off to do some lawn work before it gets hot.

But I am curious as to that phrasing.

Sounds exactly like a dog whistle.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
8. Y'know.....the USPS is now letting some letter carriers deliver in plain clothes....
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:54 PM
Aug 2013

saw it at my house the other day....they really should think twice about that. Sounds like a "good excuse" for some law abiding rights exercisin' citizen.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Sadly, this is true. Back before I was banned from the gungeon, I
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:14 PM
Aug 2013

actually got in debates with some of them who would not ride a bicycle without packing a gun. That level of paranoia does not mix well with gunz.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
11. Not all of them are licensed to carry a can of pork and beans like you are
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:22 PM
Aug 2013

So they are forced to arm themselves with a much less lethal gun.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
21. My recently gun converted freeper sister in law bathes with a gun..
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:58 PM
Aug 2013

.. wrapped in a towel next to the bathtub.

She managed 40 plus years on this planet without guns and, for some reason, turned gun nut in 2009. Hmmm

About two weeks after getting her first gun, she informed me she could never live in Chicago due to the restrictions.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
24. "...not able to tell police what happened to his handgun..." ??????
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 12:30 AM
Aug 2013

THIS should be an offense in its own right. Did he: Damage it beyond use? Hide it under the matress? Sell it to a real youth in a hood? throw it in a body of water? Bury it? Toss it where anyone might find it?

Minimum should be, a ban for a period of time, all guns to destruction or bonded storage at the owner's expense, then an approved course of training.

Mopar151

(9,975 posts)
28. Judging from the firearms "experts" i've met
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 01:53 AM
Aug 2013

The safest plan would involving permanently disarming the applicants for the instructor positions.

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