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A quick and dirty examination of options regarding Syria (Original Post) derby378 Aug 2013 OP
Is either route really rational? leveymg Aug 2013 #1
When Bush 43 invaded Iraq, I remember predictions that the entire Middle East could be destabilized derby378 Aug 2013 #2
The region is far differerent (and less stable) than it was a decade ago. leveymg Aug 2013 #3
Arrows would be helpful krispos42 Aug 2013 #4
This is what we call "derby being a n00b" derby378 Aug 2013 #5
What did you use, Office? n/t krispos42 Aug 2013 #6
I used an online program called draw.io derby378 Aug 2013 #7

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. Is either route really rational?
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:08 PM
Aug 2013

Here's the third path not displayed: don't set up a situation of sectarian civil war in an ethnically divided nation surrounded by other similar tinder-box countries and pretend that "there's no way we could have foreseen" regional religious war breaking out.

Think of structural continuities, as well as functional differences, in US foreign policy paths. Thanks for the nice flowchart!

derby378

(30,252 posts)
2. When Bush 43 invaded Iraq, I remember predictions that the entire Middle East could be destabilized
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:12 PM
Aug 2013

George W. Bush is a warmonger and an asshole, but it would still be unfair to blame him for everything that happened in the Middle East since March 2003. But it's also not unfair to regard our military presence as a destabilizing agent.

You have a good point - I too have grown tired of "we couldn't have foreseen this" arguments a lot time ago. We rely on them to think about the unthinkable and respond in kind.

Thanks for the feedback!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. The region is far differerent (and less stable) than it was a decade ago.
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:29 PM
Aug 2013

People are generally paid to preserve othodoxies, not to provide accurate warnings of catastrophes.

Good chart - captures the prevailing duality either-or view of events really nicely!

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
4. Arrows would be helpful
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:36 PM
Aug 2013

And I personally would like the acronym "CARB" (chemical, atomic, radiological, biological; make them words when you can!)


But, yeah, you've probably got it nailed.



Now the issue becomes "what is the reality of the fresh intelligence, and what will be the narration of the fresh intelligence to the American people"?

derby378

(30,252 posts)
5. This is what we call "derby being a n00b"
Fri Aug 30, 2013, 10:48 PM
Aug 2013

I couldn't figure out how to generate arrows, so I tried to lay it out logically and not shy away from the "Yes/No" diamonds. But thanks for the comments!

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