Please post this to every rightie who is chicken doving regarding Syria

[LaydeeBug]

"Honestly, I just think we should trust our president in every decision that he makes, and we should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens,"

I am against action, but am a realist, and since WE drew the line in the sand, we will be responding, and I hate it, but I think it's true.

[David__77]

1. "We" did no such thing.

Obama himself owns that. And what he should also own up to is that it was a mistake. He is unwilling, if chemical weapons were indeed used by the government, to actually do anything that would protect anyone from anything. Instead, he gives his "shot across the bow" that is pure symbolism. It would be gross incompetence. Any right-wingers that are against this, are right.

[LaydeeBug]

7. I understand what you're saying, but they are only right because of spite...

not because of the reasons you mentioned. I am against war. I am against action for the same reasons you posted.

But make no mistake...they are against this because they are against HIM, not because they have grown a peace filled conscience.

[joshcryer]

10. it was not a mistake

the red line is the moral position

all he has to do is note his moral superiority on this issue and wash his hands of it

[HardTimes99]

13. The novelist Jospeh Conrad called it correctly over a 100 years ago:

Once, I remember, we came upon a man-of-war anchored off the coast. There wasn’t even a shed there, and she was shelling the bush. It appears the French had one of their wars going on thereabouts. Her ensign dropped limp like a rag; the muzzles of the long six-inch guns stuck out all over the low hull; the greasy, slimy swell swung her up lazily and let her down, swaying her thin masts. In the empty immensity of earth, sky, and water, there she was, incomprehensible, firing into a continent. Pop, would go one of the six-inch guns; a small flame would dart and vanish, a little white smoke would disappear, a tiny projectile would give a feeble screech—and nothing happened. Nothing could happen. There was a touch of insanity in the proceeding, a sense of lugubrious drollery in the sight; and it was not dissipated by somebody on board assuring me earnestly there was a camp of natives—he called them enemies!—hidden out of sight somewhere.

Heart of Darkness

[Electric Monk]

2. Chicken doving? Out of curiousity, I just did a google search for "chicken doving" and

this thread came up #1. But, other than that, the other hits were to a blog post from 2008 accusing Obama of it with regards to Iraq.

Hmmm. Interesting.

[LaydeeBug]

5. There is no connection, I came up with the term myself, the opposite of Chicken hawking.

But honestly, if the shoe fits...shew. <<<----I post that without having seen the site that you are mentioning, so please take it with a grain of salt

Chicken Doves are the same assholes that would be drumming the war drum were this a different commander, but suddenly they're the new peace people now.

Oh, and they're already trying to saddle him with Iraq and Afghanistan and Katrina for that matter.

Chicken doves. They want war as long as someone else fights it, it appeases their sense of spite, and no lefty looks good. Truly. Oh, and if we could slash social programs to pay for it, they'd like that even more.

[NuclearDem]

3. I don't remember voting on the red line.

[Agschmid]

4. Please define...

Chicken Doving

[LaydeeBug]

6. see post #5. nt

[madokie]

8. I'm confused,

"We have been very clear to the Assad regime but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is; we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus; that would change my equation.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3568824

[LaydeeBug]

12. I am not sure what you're confused about, so I can't help you. :( nt

[NightWatcher]

9. Chicken doving= not being a war monger?

[LaydeeBug]

11. Chicken doving = PRETENDING you aren't a war monger just because Obama is at the moment...

or appears to be...or may be...you get the drift.

Were this a repig in office, they'd be screaming to bomb everything, and if we're honest, you know it.

They don't want to leave Iraq, they just don't want this President to have a successful (if albeit unseemly) military mission.

Pretending that they've suddenly grown a conscience is foolish