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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 04:43 AM Aug 2013

UN Chemical Weapons Inspectors Leave Syria. Syria expects attack 'at any moment'

UN weapons inspectors have left Syria, heightening expectations of a possible US-led attack on President Bashar al Assad's forces.

The 13-strong team left their hotel in Damascus in seven vehicles and then crossed the border into Lebanon, where they have arrived at Beirut international airport.

Yesterday, they finished collecting samples from the site of an alleged gas attack that the US claims killed more than 1,400 people, which they will now take to The Hague to be analysed.

A UN spokesman stressed that all available information, including lab analysis of the samples, had to be evaluated "before the mission can draw any conclusions about the incident".


http://news.sky.com/story/1135350/un-chemical-weapons-inspectors-leave-syria


DAMASCUS (AFP) - 08/31/2013 - 10:08

Syria expects an attack 'at any moment': security official

http://www.afp.com/en

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UN Chemical Weapons Inspectors Leave Syria. Syria expects attack 'at any moment' (Original Post) The Straight Story Aug 2013 OP
The attack wiil occur at night aristocles Aug 2013 #1
That would be my guess, at around 2:15am The Straight Story Aug 2013 #2
There is nothing to gain by anyone of the many factions within Syria to conduct a chemical attack ThirdWayCowplop Aug 2013 #3
So who do you feel/think is behind it The Straight Story Aug 2013 #4
Hard to say it could be all those countries you listed but surprisingly you left Saudi Arabia ThirdWayCowplop Aug 2013 #5
This whole incident is not isolated, things have been going on there for years The Straight Story Aug 2013 #6
Look beyond the obvious, like you stated it has been going on for years. ThirdWayCowplop Aug 2013 #7
Actually he does have a tie in :) The Straight Story Aug 2013 #8
When it comes to oil and geo politics you have different types of oil ThirdWayCowplop Aug 2013 #9
 

aristocles

(594 posts)
1. The attack wiil occur at night
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 05:01 AM
Aug 2013

The time differance is 7 hours. It's currently 5:00 am EDT. It's 12:00 Noon in Damascus right now.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
2. That would be my guess, at around 2:15am
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 05:07 AM
Aug 2013

Most folks asleep, troops wake up, not rested for the next day, etc and so on.

However, it could work the other way as well. Attack in the day and pile on from there and they won't be able to sleep

I don't know enough about their military and it's movements/cycles to pinpoint a best time. There are many factors (distance between items designated to hit, where troops current are, what assets have how many people manning them in what shifts, etc).

 

ThirdWayCowplop

(40 posts)
3. There is nothing to gain by anyone of the many factions within Syria to conduct a chemical attack
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 06:57 AM
Aug 2013

however many parties from outside of Syria have much to gain of it is made to look like a chemical attack occurred from within.

Follow the money and we will see who is really pulling the trigger.

 

ThirdWayCowplop

(40 posts)
5. Hard to say it could be all those countries you listed but surprisingly you left Saudi Arabia
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:10 AM
Aug 2013

and Russia off the list.

Now it may or may not be the Government themselves that are directly involved but powerful factions within the Government(s).

There are also a whole lot of corporations who will gain too but strangely enough corporations are seldom considered as the source of attacks like this.

Interestingly enough it is the corporations who have more influence across all the countries that are and will be involved then the Government themselves.

But some one will end up going off halfcocked and once that happens we will never really find out who did it, it will be lost once the bombs fall.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
6. This whole incident is not isolated, things have been going on there for years
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:15 AM
Aug 2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14703995

It seems so many look at this as one little isolated incident and we suddenly are becoming aware of it (previous sanctions, chemical weapon use, etc).

If it was all controlled by big companies than they would have gotten more countries they control on board. If Russia wanted assad out they probably would have done the job themselves. Saudi Arabia just spent over 300 million to aid the refugees which continue to flow out, so I don't see them as making any money off of this whole thing.
 

ThirdWayCowplop

(40 posts)
7. Look beyond the obvious, like you stated it has been going on for years.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:28 AM
Aug 2013

Lots of history involved between many different factions.

War is a side show to keep people distracted from what is really happening.

I for one would love to come out and say the Prince of Darkness himself Darth Cheney is behind it all, but I can’t however it would not surprise me at all if he is involved on some level either.

For years genocide was going down in Africa and nobody did dick about it, now everyone suddenly gives a crap about genocide is Syria, ask yourself why suddenly everyone gives a crap.

The Straight Story

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8. Actually he does have a tie in :)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:35 AM
Aug 2013

From an earlier post I made:


Genie Energy Ltd. is an American energy company headquartered in Newark, New Jersey. It is a holding company comprising IDT Energy, a retail energy provider, and Genie Oil & Gas, which controls the company's ventures in oil shale research and development in Colorado and Israel. Genie was part of IDT Corporation. IDT spun off Genie to its shareholders on October 31, 2011, at which point Class B common stock of Genie Energy Ltd. began trading on the NYSE under the ticker symbol "GNE".

Genie's founder, chairman and controlling shareholder is Howard Jonas. Claude Pupkin is the company's CEO, and Avi Goldin is its CFO. Geoffrey Rochwarger is Genie's vice chairman.

Genie previously announced a strategic advisory board whose members provide strategic direction and council. Its members include former Vice President Dick Cheney, Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild, and Rupert Murdoch.

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Earlier this year Genie energy was given the rights to drill in the disputed region of the Golan heights.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-21/israel-awards-first-license-to-drill-on-golan-heights-to-genie.html

Israel’s Ministry of Energy and Water Resources has awarded the first energy exploration license in the disputed Golan Heights to a local subsidiary of U.S.- based Genie Energy Corp. (GNE)

“The company believes, based on its preliminary analysis and interpretation of existing geological data, that the newly issued license area may contain significant quantities of conventional oil and gas in relatively tight formations,” Genie Energy said today in an e-mailed statement.

The Golan was captured by Israel from Syria in the 1967 war, and again served as a battlefield when the Syrians unsuccessfully tried to retake it in the 1973 conflict. Israeli claims to the territory aren’t recognized by the international community. Former prime minister Ehud Barak offered to return most of the occupied Golan to Syria in unsuccessful negotiations to reach a peace agreement in 1999-2000.

Israeli Energy Minister Uzi Landau decided last year to open the Golan to energy exploration, after significant gas fields were discovered off the country’s Mediterranean shore.

 

ThirdWayCowplop

(40 posts)
9. When it comes to oil and geo politics you have different types of oil
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 08:09 AM
Aug 2013

Last edited Sat Aug 31, 2013, 10:03 AM - Edit history (1)

You have ‘Shia oil’ from Iran, ‘Sunni Wahhabi’ oil from Saudi Arabia,

Bashar al-Assad is an Alawite which is a Shia sect.

The Syrian Sunnis are also linked with Lebanese, Iranian and Jordanian Sunnis.

Follow the money!

Update -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023569060

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