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Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:30 AM Aug 2013

NYT: Amid Skepticism, White House Tries to Shore Up Support <- NEOLIB UNITARY EXECUTIVE FAIL

Amid Skepticism, White House Tries to Shore Up Support

The White House on Saturday moved to shore up domestic and international support for a possible military strike against the Syrian government in retaliation for a chemical weapons attack on its own people, as United Nations inspectors left Syria.

Secretary of State John Kerry, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and other top aides to President Obama scheduled conference calls for Saturday afternoon with members of the United States Senate, where there was deep skepticism in both parties about the prospect of American involvement in another war in the Middle East, even the limited cruise missile strike under consideration.

The back-to-back calls to the Democratic and Republican conferences were arranged to fulfill Mr. Obama’s promise to consult with Congress as he contemplates military action, but there was no sign that the White House planned to seek a Congressional vote authorizing the use of force. In addition to Mr. Kerry and Mr. Hagel, both former senators, Adm. James A. Winnefeld Jr., the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, and Susan E. Rice, the president’s national security adviser, will participate.

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Privately, some American officials acknowledged mistakes over the past week in their buildup for a strike, leading British lawmakers to reject participation on Thursday. It is unclear when Mr. Obama realized that the British vote would go against him, but it was not until Friday afternoon that the White House released what it said was evidence of chemical weapons use by the Assad forces — nearly 24 hours after Parliament had voted rather than beforehand, when it might have been used to build a coalition against Mr. Assad.


Glad I spent the bulk of my time exercising out in the sun this summer. Glad I didn't waste too much time on this bullshit. As far as I'm concerned, the Obama administration is now officially the number one threat to Democrats in the 2014 elections. He may be the head of the party, but he does not own it and he does not have my permission to destroy it.

Not like that's going to stop this administration from trying, though. They're persistent. Grand Bargain persistent. I'm sure they've already made booty calls to the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau and Solomon Islands to see who they can wrangle into the next stank-ass misadventure.

FUCK THAT FAIL

PB
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NYT: Amid Skepticism, White House Tries to Shore Up Support <- NEOLIB UNITARY EXECUTIVE FAIL (Original Post) Poll_Blind Aug 2013 OP
But it's going to look awesome on his resume. jsr Aug 2013 #1
Agreed. And it's also going to be on this party's tombstone in 2014 if he keeps it up. nt Poll_Blind Aug 2013 #17
Contain the violence to Syria/Lebanon, don't try to stop it. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #2
Ah 'containment'! Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #3
It worked. Vastly preferable to geek tragedy Aug 2013 #5
k and r nashville_brook Aug 2013 #4
Looks like shit, smells like shit, tastes like shit ...oh fuck ...he stepped in it. L0oniX Aug 2013 #6
The body of the article doesn't justify the headline and lead paragraph. gulliver Aug 2013 #7
Hope. Change. Bullsh!t. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #8
You forgot Poland! scarletwoman Aug 2013 #9
This do nothing congress can finally put the nail in their own coffin ... MindMover Aug 2013 #10
Excuse me but Phlem Aug 2013 #11
Excuse me, that is what many of the worlds powers said MindMover Aug 2013 #12
Oh, OK then. Phlem Aug 2013 #13
What took you so long Mr. President icnorth Aug 2013 #14
Well lets say it is done now, and this DO NOTHING congress can get there collective MindMover Aug 2013 #15
Cool! At least it's a delay icnorth Aug 2013 #18
Exactly, and when they decide to do nothing, they are responsible...... MindMover Aug 2013 #19
I see Phlem Aug 2013 #16
What do you mean by my "recent history"? icnorth Aug 2013 #20
In hind I see. Phlem Aug 2013 #21

jsr

(7,712 posts)
1. But it's going to look awesome on his resume.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:33 AM
Aug 2013

Helluva Job. Resolute Executive Decider. He-Man War President.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
7. The body of the article doesn't justify the headline and lead paragraph.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 11:50 AM
Aug 2013

I don't see any indication that Obama is trying to "shore up support" for anything. He is consulting. We don't know his intentions. The authors got schedule information and want to turn it into something interesting. The schedule information is interesting. Their opinion of what it means is meaningless.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
9. You forgot Poland!
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 01:52 PM
Aug 2013
I'm sure they've already made booty calls to the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau and Solomon Islands to see who they can wrangle into the next stank-ass misadventure.


I'm totally with you on this:
As far as I'm concerned, the Obama administration is now officially the number one threat to Democrats in the 2014 elections. He may be the head of the party, but he does not own it and he does not have my permission to destroy it.

Well said!

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
10. This do nothing congress can finally put the nail in their own coffin ...
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:25 PM
Aug 2013

DO NOTHING ABOUT SYRIA AND RISK A WORLD WAR STARTING.....

icnorth

(1,015 posts)
14. What took you so long Mr. President
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:58 PM
Aug 2013

and who in hell are the advisers you've been listening to? You should have done this before beating the war drums and sabre rattling. Why didn't you tell Congress to get their asses back to Washington and throw this in their play pen two weeks ago? Congress was scared shitless you would do exactly that and drag them into a public forum they didn't want to be in. That would have been leadership; now, not so much as the appearance of waffling and indecision.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
15. Well lets say it is done now, and this DO NOTHING congress can get there collective
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 03:01 PM
Aug 2013

lazy butts back to take a vote....

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
16. I see
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 03:04 PM
Aug 2013

so he should have ignored the will of the people and went right in, that would have fixed everything according to your recent history?

I was wondering how many chapters we need to put in our endless wars?

And here I thought we lived in a Democracy.



-p

icnorth

(1,015 posts)
20. What do you mean by my "recent history"?
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 06:21 PM
Aug 2013

MY response was in reply to the thread title about securing consensus BEFORE he began beating the drum for military intervention and boxing himself in; in fact I imply just the opposite of ignoring the will of the people by presidential unilateral action.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
21. In hind I see.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 06:39 PM
Aug 2013

Sorry for the mail.

Yes I agree, he should have kept shut with the comments, what he's proposed recently is what he should have said in the first place. After Shrub, there's been an air of "we can do what ever we want" and I got a whiff of that with his initial comments. Seems to me it's just a show right now to appease the "people".



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