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Amid Skepticism, White House Tries to Shore Up SupportSecretary of State John Kerry, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and other top aides to President Obama scheduled conference calls for Saturday afternoon with members of the United States Senate, where there was deep skepticism in both parties about the prospect of American involvement in another war in the Middle East, even the limited cruise missile strike under consideration.
The back-to-back calls to the Democratic and Republican conferences were arranged to fulfill Mr. Obamas promise to consult with Congress as he contemplates military action, but there was no sign that the White House planned to seek a Congressional vote authorizing the use of force. In addition to Mr. Kerry and Mr. Hagel, both former senators, Adm. James A. Winnefeld Jr., the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, and Susan E. Rice, the presidents national security adviser, will participate.
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Privately, some American officials acknowledged mistakes over the past week in their buildup for a strike, leading British lawmakers to reject participation on Thursday. It is unclear when Mr. Obama realized that the British vote would go against him, but it was not until Friday afternoon that the White House released what it said was evidence of chemical weapons use by the Assad forces nearly 24 hours after Parliament had voted rather than beforehand, when it might have been used to build a coalition against Mr. Assad.
Glad I spent the bulk of my time exercising out in the sun this summer. Glad I didn't waste too much time on this bullshit. As far as I'm concerned, the Obama administration is now officially the number one threat to Democrats in the 2014 elections. He may be the head of the party, but he does not own it and he does not have my permission to destroy it.
Not like that's going to stop this administration from trying, though. They're persistent. Grand Bargain persistent. I'm sure they've already made booty calls to the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau and Solomon Islands to see who they can wrangle into the next stank-ass misadventure.
FUCK THAT FAIL
PB
jsr
(7,712 posts)Helluva Job. Resolute Executive Decider. He-Man War President.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Now there's a word from the past! And what a word it is too!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)participating in someone else's holy/civil war.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)gulliver
(13,168 posts)I don't see any indication that Obama is trying to "shore up support" for anything. He is consulting. We don't know his intentions. The authors got schedule information and want to turn it into something interesting. The schedule information is interesting. Their opinion of what it means is meaningless.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I'm totally with you on this:
Well said!
MindMover
(5,016 posts)DO NOTHING ABOUT SYRIA AND RISK A WORLD WAR STARTING.....
Phlem
(6,323 posts)How do we make the leap from not doing anything in Syria = World War?
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MindMover
(5,016 posts)about Hitler ...
Phlem
(6,323 posts)So the Assad regime is ready to take on the world?
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icnorth
(1,015 posts)and who in hell are the advisers you've been listening to? You should have done this before beating the war drums and sabre rattling. Why didn't you tell Congress to get their asses back to Washington and throw this in their play pen two weeks ago? Congress was scared shitless you would do exactly that and drag them into a public forum they didn't want to be in. That would have been leadership; now, not so much as the appearance of waffling and indecision.
MindMover
(5,016 posts)lazy butts back to take a vote....
icnorth
(1,015 posts)and now we can watch the Chamber of Chaos do their thing.
MindMover
(5,016 posts)so he should have ignored the will of the people and went right in, that would have fixed everything according to your recent history?
I was wondering how many chapters we need to put in our endless wars?
And here I thought we lived in a Democracy.
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icnorth
(1,015 posts)MY response was in reply to the thread title about securing consensus BEFORE he began beating the drum for military intervention and boxing himself in; in fact I imply just the opposite of ignoring the will of the people by presidential unilateral action.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Sorry for the mail.
Yes I agree, he should have kept shut with the comments, what he's proposed recently is what he should have said in the first place. After Shrub, there's been an air of "we can do what ever we want" and I got a whiff of that with his initial comments. Seems to me it's just a show right now to appease the "people".
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