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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:17 PM Aug 2013

Good speech. I give Obama credit for making

Last edited Sat Aug 31, 2013, 03:57 PM - Edit history (7)

the best of a poor situation.


The chief value of this semi-charade is domestic precedent. What promises to be two weird weeks in Washington will have the effect of restraining future presidents somewhat... rolling back the assumption of an imperial presidency. Whatever Congress ends up deciding, it will be harder for future presidents to launch message-sending missiles unilaterally.

Given that the whole thing was looking embarassing, I'm pleased that some positive could come of it, and it think the precedent asking Congress to take it up *at their own speed* (as opposed to under the imminent OMG threat of Fu Manchu) is a benign one.

Also, this was negotiated. That was not played up, but he said that the top people in congress had agreed to take up Syria first in the new session.


Make no mistake. Despite the artful phrasing, Obama did just cancel the planned strikes for lack of global support. This is very much hitting the reset button. (When he said he'll still be ready to go a month from now, that was the equivalent of canceling an alert.)

As to whether any strikes will have the tactical effect of making the world a better place, I continue to doubt it. At this point in time, I would tend to vote no if I were in Congress. (But I predict that something will pass both houses eventually.)

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Good speech. I give Obama credit for making (Original Post) cthulu2016 Aug 2013 OP
Domestic precedent is a very good point. rug Aug 2013 #1
Congress needs to work and take responsibility. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #2
I'm glad to see him getting back to his roots in Constitutional law. nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #3
Another benefit- Congress w/ assess intelligence. Tired of barking about Colin Powell's empty vial. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #4
You make a good point about precedent PsychoBunny Aug 2013 #5
I have faith in the guy. I know he will try to do best Whisp Aug 2013 #6
Good post TransitJohn Aug 2013 #7
This was the primer before the paint job npk Aug 2013 #8
K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #9
. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #10
. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #11
A punt is still better than war Taverner Aug 2013 #12
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
6. I have faith in the guy. I know he will try to do best
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:26 PM
Aug 2013

with what he has to work with.

He comes through pretty consistently, considering the climate he has to work in.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
7. Good post
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 02:29 PM
Aug 2013

I think it was astute politics to force Congress' hand and bring them to the table instead of letting them stay outside and bitch and moan like they constantly do.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
12. A punt is still better than war
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 04:02 PM
Aug 2013

And who knows? Congress might actually wake up and start doing their jobs...

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