Justin Amash (R) gets Town Hall question: "Why would we want to trust insurance companies...?"

[ProSense]

Justin Amash (R) gets Town Hall question: "Why would we want to trust insurance companies...?"

by Lefty Coaster

Many Republicans who are holding town hall meetings during their August Recess are getting an earful about their opposition to the A.C.A. At a Marshall Michigan town hall meeting Republican Justin Amash faced angry questions about his opposition to the Affordable Care Act and what Amash wants in its place.

Retired Attorney David Getto: The problem is I've never heard anyone explain who's competing against who. As a patient I'm the end user of the system. I can't shop for quality or price. I can't call up five doctors to find out who's going to give me the cheapest operation on my arm, and then call five hospitals up to find out which ones are going to charge me so much for the anesthesia. So when you talk about competition the typical capitalistic model doesn't seem to apply. Who's going to compete?

Rep. Justin Amash The insurers are - the insurance companies going to compete.

Retired Attorney David Getto: Well then we're going to turn everything over to the insurance companies. Why - why would we want to trust insurance companies to run the entire medical system?

(General murmur of agreement from the audience.)

Rep. Justin Amash That's not true. And also you're trusting the government to run the entire medical system which is far more dangerous and far more monopolistic.

Retired Attorney David Getto: We don't have doctors - we don't have doctors being employed by the government like they do in some countries. Most Hospitals are private operations, they may not be for profit but they're private operations. If you don't have any regulations at all how would you achieve any quality under the system?

Rep. Justin Amash You achieve quality in all areas of life through competition. That's how you achieve quality.

Retired Attorney David Getto: But where's the competition that's what I'm saying?

Rep. Justin Amash You can have it if there is less regulation and more competition. The more regulation you have in any industry the less competition you have.

David Getto's pointed questions go right to the very crux of the health care debate. Amash's doctrinaire free market extremism doesn't really provide a satisfactory answer to these questions. And everybody in the room can sense it too.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/31/1235290/-Justin-Amash-R-faces-angry-Town-Hall-question-Why-would-we-trust-insurance-companies

[David Krout]

1. This is a reaction to the fact that Amash doesn't want unilateral war with Syria

The goal is to show that although Amash's views on the NSA and war are superb, he is very bad at other things such as healthcare (which I agree).

Therefore, Amash should want war with Syria, or something, because we shouldn't have to agree with anything he says.

Believe it or not, this is "logic."

[arcane1]

3. What does this video have to do with Syria?

[David Krout]

4. Nothing, which is my point nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. ROFL

Indeed. Bizarre response.

[Cha]

6. Poor Amash.. we should hide everything about him and only let

you post about him. Paranoid much?

[safeinOhio]

2. Lets just call insurance companies what they are....

death panels.

[HumansAndResources]

15. EXACTLY !! And "Special Legal Monopolies" to boot

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran%E2%80%93Ferguson_Act

So they are Both Right and Both Wrong (though my sentiments align with the questioner). Yes, competition would be helpful in reducing cost, but there isn't any. Single-Payer would be much better than what we got, or what we had before.

But Empowered Citizens, with the land and resources of this wealthy nation, could ALL afford to pay for insurance - especially if insurance companies, pharmaceuticals, and hospitals were not-for-profit - like hospitals and insurance were through the 1970s, when the costs were much lower. This was before Bill Frist's father / HCA went around "privatizing" the hospitals, and brought us the $10 aspirin.

[zbdent]

5. Was his response "Because they pay me in cash"?

[kentuck]

8. Excellent report!

[Cha]

9. Amash is against Obamacare.. he should be getting "angry questions".

This is good news for Obamacare!

mahalo ProSense

[Laelth]

10. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[tecelote]

11. "The more regulation you have in any industry the less competition you have."

Which is why no regulation leads to monopolies.

[JRLeft]

12. That makes no Gawd Damn sense!

[tecelote]

13. Really?

What makes no sense are people yelling for less regulation while complaining about jobs being sent overseas.

[JRLeft]

14. Sorry i didn't mean to reply to you. I meant the too much regulation comment.