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stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 06:43 PM Aug 2013

Examiner: Rebels admit gas attack result of mishandling chemical weapons

Dale Gavlak (NPR and other publications) interviewed rebels who say attack was accidental...

Not sure how reliable a source the Examiner is but here you have it-

http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-result-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons?fb_action_ids=590440097664147&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[229197903896694]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]

August 30, 2013

In a report that is sure to be considered blockbuster news, the rebels told Dale Gavlak, a reporter who has written for the Associated Press, NPR and BBC, they are responsible for the chemical attack last week.

Gavlak is a Middle Eastern journalist who filed the report about the rebels claiming responsibility on the Mint Press News website, which is affiliated with AP.

In that report allegedly the rebels told him the chemical attack was a result of mishandling chemical weapons.
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Examiner: Rebels admit gas attack result of mishandling chemical weapons (Original Post) stlsaxman Aug 2013 OP
Examiner: Doesn't have enough credibility to take seriously FSogol Aug 2013 #1
But ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, CNN, and FOX do? 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #35
There has been threads on this.. a big one on the front page right now Peacetrain Aug 2013 #2
Shady source? PHEW. sibelian Sep 2013 #11
Take it somewhere else.. Peacetrain Sep 2013 #13
I'm happy with it right here, thanks. sibelian Sep 2013 #37
Coffee coming up Peacetrain Sep 2013 #39
I am in no hurry to see this locked but it does sound a little fishy. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #3
There's a reason you are left scraping the bottom of the barrel for sourcing this- KittyWampus Aug 2013 #4
The Examiner? sharp_stick Aug 2013 #5
I read Assad's inner circle was caught flatfooted Warpy Aug 2013 #6
Indeed. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #8
This examiner article has already been locked once as a RW site and self-deleted twice. pnwmom Aug 2013 #7
It was locked for inappropriately being in LBN. Just sayin. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #9
The locker said it was a RW site. That means it doesn't belong anywhere here. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #15
Not true. Skinner said that sight could be used to lock threads in LBN because it wasnt appropriate rhett o rick Sep 2013 #16
Here is exactly what the locker said: pnwmom Sep 2013 #17
The hosts voted to lock. There was no agreement that the Examiner is a RW site. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #18
It was the "consensus of the hosts that the Examiner is a RW site. . . ." pnwmom Sep 2013 #19
You are quoting someone. But the consensus was to lock. Only the one person rhett o rick Sep 2013 #20
I'm quoting the host who locked the thread after saying that it was the consensus pnwmom Sep 2013 #21
"That's your idea", yes because I read the discussion. The host that locked the thread rhett o rick Sep 2013 #22
The Examiner IS a RW site. See #23, below. n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #25
Thank you. That's something I can accept. Better than heresay. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #32
It is a RW site...a bit about the owner of the Examiner.com maddezmom Sep 2013 #23
Thanks for the info, maddezmom! n/t pnwmom Sep 2013 #24
Thank you, maddezmom. I wasn't sure if it's a RW site or not. stlsaxman Sep 2013 #27
I am just speaking to the site not the journalist maddezmom Sep 2013 #36
Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #34
It's too bad that GD doesn't have the standards of LBN... SidDithers Sep 2013 #38
"In a report that is sure to be considered blockbuster news" sibelian Sep 2013 #10
Why the rush to judgement? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #12
Looks like they mishandled them a lot cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #14
then explain the rockets Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #26
good point. stlsaxman Sep 2013 #28
no it isn't Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #29
"extremely basic point" or not- that very question occurred to me when I first read the article... stlsaxman Sep 2013 #30
I know you were agreeing with me Motown_Johnny Sep 2013 #31
thank you for clarifying, and pardon my oversensitivity. stlsaxman Sep 2013 #33

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
35. But ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, CNN, and FOX do?
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 09:37 AM
Sep 2013

I guess its not possible that anyone but Assad did the gassing.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
2. There has been threads on this.. a big one on the front page right now
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:03 PM
Aug 2013

and the source is looking pretty shady.

just saying

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
11. Shady source? PHEW.
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:27 PM
Sep 2013

That means it would be alright for Obama to carry on with the bombing campaign.

RELIEF.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
3. I am in no hurry to see this locked but it does sound a little fishy.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:10 PM
Aug 2013

For one thing, do the rebels have chemical weapons? And if they used them would we go after them?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
4. There's a reason you are left scraping the bottom of the barrel for sourcing this-
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:12 PM
Aug 2013

There's a reason why no reputable news source is carrying it.

It's not because every respectable news outlet on the planet is a co-conspirator in PNAC.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
5. The Examiner?
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:14 PM
Aug 2013

Holy shit but you had to reach deep into the sewer for this one. If NPR or AP isn't reporting it I'd pretty much say it's the steaming pile of shit that they put out on pretty much a daily basis.

Warpy

(111,233 posts)
6. I read Assad's inner circle was caught flatfooted
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:25 PM
Aug 2013

and in a panic right after it.

Still, I think little coming out of that country is reliable.

And people are jerking their knees and screaming for vengeance for all those pore baybees not realizing it's the oldest propaganda trick in the world.

Remember the infants tossed out of incubators and onto the cold floor in Kuwait?

Offhand, I'd say that since Assad is Putin's boy, this is Putin's problem. No one appointed the US as the world's guardian and no one is paying us a dime for the service.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
7. This examiner article has already been locked once as a RW site and self-deleted twice.
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 09:03 PM
Aug 2013

The story was started by WND 5 days ago and eventually pushed its way out of the right wing blogosphere into the left.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=581438

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. Not true. Skinner said that sight could be used to lock threads in LBN because it wasnt appropriate
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:19 AM
Sep 2013

for LBN. He said that the host could decide otherwise.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
17. Here is exactly what the locker said:
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:21 AM
Sep 2013

(Notice the use of the word "and&quot :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=581438

"Locking-Consensus of hosts that the Examiner is a RW site and not appropriate for LBN."

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. The hosts voted to lock. There was no agreement that the Examiner is a RW site.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:37 AM
Sep 2013

It has been determined that the source was not acceptable for LBN which has more strict rules than GD. The host of LBN do not affect what happens in GD.

What's the rush to declare sights as RW?

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
19. It was the "consensus of the hosts that the Examiner is a RW site. . . ."
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:47 AM
Sep 2013

"Consensus" means that all the hosts agreed.

This story was based on a story that has been pushed by WND for five days before it moved out of the rightwing blogosphere. Why should DU post repeated threads about it?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. You are quoting someone. But the consensus was to lock. Only the one person
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:53 AM
Sep 2013

claimed that the Examiner is a RW sight. All the hosts agreed to lock. Only one host mentioned it was a RW sight.

I am not claiming the story is legitimate, I am just arguing that the OP that was locked was because it didnt meet the strict requirements of LBN.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
21. I'm quoting the host who locked the thread after saying that it was the consensus
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:05 AM
Sep 2013

of the hosts that it was a RW site. S/he didn't say that only one host thought that. That's your idea.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
22. "That's your idea", yes because I read the discussion. The host that locked the thread
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:22 AM
Sep 2013

said it but it was not reflected in the discussion.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
23. It is a RW site...a bit about the owner of the Examiner.com
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 08:46 AM
Sep 2013

Political and Christian activism[edit source | editbeta]
Often identified as "Christian billionaire Phil Anschutz",[46] he is a Republican donor who supported George W. Bush's administration. He has been an active patron of a number of religious and conservative causes:
Helped fund Colorado's 1992 Amendment 2, a ballot initiative designed to overturn local and state laws that prohibit discrimination against individuals on the basis of sexual orientation but was invalidated by Romer v. Evans after it passed.[32]
Contributed $70,000 in 2003 to the Discovery Institute, to specifically support the work of telecom guru George Gilder but not matters related to intelligent design. That fact was validated by Discovery President Bruce Chapman in a letter-to-the-editor to the Rocky Mounatain News, "Anschutz never gave that program a nickel,"[47]
The Discovery Institute is a think tank based in Seattle, Washington that also promotes intelligent design and criticizes evolution.[48]
Supported the Parents Television Council, a group that protests against television indecency.[48]
Financed and distributed films with Christian themes, such as Amazing Grace and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, for mass audiences through his two film production companies and ownership of much of the Regal, Edwards and United Artists theater chains.
Financed The Foundation for a Better Life.
In 2009 Anschutz purchased the conservative American opinion magazine The Weekly Standard from Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation.[39]
Philip Anschutz and fellow board members of the American Petroleum Institute in Washington are credited by Bush's energy secretary for the Oval Office decision in 2001 to stand with the 95-0 vote in the U.S. Senate four years earlier against bringing ratification of the Kyoto Protocol to the floor for consideration. The primary reason cited was the crippling economic effects of the treaty.[citation needed]
Financed the 2010 pro-charter school film, Waiting for Superman.[49]
Financed the 2012 pro-parent trigger film, Won't Back Down.[50]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Anschutz

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
27. Thank you, maddezmom. I wasn't sure if it's a RW site or not.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 09:19 AM
Sep 2013

what caught my eye with some "legitimacy" was Dale Gavlak's name being sited. Gavlak does reports for NPR and other sources (now, to me NPR IS a RW site).

I posted the OP in the slim hope that it might have contained factual info that we were going to war for an accident. My bad. Go ahead and lock the thread. I don't care any more.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
38. It's too bad that GD doesn't have the standards of LBN...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 01:04 PM
Sep 2013

no matter how loony a site is, GD Hosts won't lock it.

Sid

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
10. "In a report that is sure to be considered blockbuster news"
Sun Sep 1, 2013, 04:25 PM
Sep 2013

Tee and also hee.

No. It's not going to be blockbuster news.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
30. "extremely basic point" or not- that very question occurred to me when I first read the article...
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 09:29 AM
Sep 2013

and it was a "good point" that the article didn't address.

in other words- I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU!!!!!

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
31. I know you were agreeing with me
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 09:32 AM
Sep 2013

but something that basic is not a "good point" (in my opinion)


I was pointing out how terrible the article is.

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