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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums9/11 National Emergency renewed.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/09/10/letter-continuation-national-emergency-message
I don't see much tv, but nobody I ask has ever heard about this in the last several years. I never hear about it unless I search it. And there was even a presidential address last night. So what good is a Declaration of NATIONAL EMERGENCY! if nobody knows about it?
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)oh wait. that's the conservative bullshit people spread. never mind.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)That it is more procedural than anything since several items were triggered at that time (for example, we still have troops in Afghanistan so the order would still be valid if anything like funding and such was tied to it all - just one possible scenario).
johnnyreb
(915 posts)Thanks for the reasonable guess, The Straight Story. It still doesn't address why 24-hour cable snooze never has time to report it year after year, unless I missed it. Maybe I can find a discussion of it from last year. Or the year before. Or the year before that. Else I reckon I'll just snuggle on down with it like that other guy. You know what they say: A SAFE American-- is a BRAVE American!
sandalwood
(11 posts)that requires a couple of hours of research/reading before being able to make an informed comment. It's been a few years since I've dug into it but National Emergencies are not good and they usurp rights. From Wiki:
At least two constitutional rights are subject to revocation during a state of emergency:
The right of habeas corpus, under Article 1, Section 9;
The right to a grand jury for members of the National Guard when in actual service, under Fifth Amendment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act
And I know it's much, more than that. Some of what I recall is that it gives the president the authority to do things like take over all means of transportation, control over all communications, confiscate all food and fuel and supplies, relocate populations against their will, force work details, and other hair raising shit. Whatever the current National Emergency is is predicated upon the previous one and you have dig far back to see the whole picture. The bottom line is there is no reason to have a National Emergency unless the country is under outright invasion by a foreign power and, even then, I'm not giving up my constitutional rights unless a gun is stuck in my face. Keeping a state of National Emergency is, I believe, a legal formality or convenience so if they want to actually do any of the things it allows, there are no legal impediments, constitution notwithstanding.