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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPutin's piece was largely just self-congratulatory propaganda
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that's fine. that's what politicians do, but it wasn't revelatory.
Yes, American exceptionalism sucks. It's a dangerous prism through which to conduct foreign policy.
The propaganda bullshit is pronounced in the claim that Russia doesn't support Assad's regime. Russia has consistently supported the Assad regime.
The claim that "Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country." is true enough now, but it started out with pro-democracy demonstrations that Assad put down with tanks and guns and missiles. Maybe it would have devolved into the largely sectarian conflict that it is today even if the regime hadn't violently put down the initial, largely peaceful demonstrations, but omitting this information as Putin does in his oped is hardly honest.
Putin focuses on the evils of the opposition forces and says nary a word about what the Assad regime has done. The atrocities taking place in Syria are conducted by forces on both sides. Yesterday, a U.N. report on atrocities in Syria, holds that of 9 incidents of mass murder they examined, the regime was responsible for 8 of them.
I won't even get into the claim that the rebels were the ones responsible for the use of chemical weapons in the Ghouta neighborhood of Damascus on August 21, except to say that that's part and parcel of Putin's support for Assad. I tend to agree with Juan Cole who explained why he believes it was the regime. He explains why on his blog.
In addition, Russia isn't quite as guilty as the U.S. when it comes to the shameful use of its power on the Security council, but it's record in that regard is pretty lousy. If we don't want the U.N. to go the way of the League of Nations, let's get rid of the permanent members of the Security Council bit.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)with military equipment because he views Assad the lesser
of the two evils? He may not want the rebels spilling over
into closer surrounding nations.
2) I agree that something needs to be done about the UN
Security Council. I wonder if there's any way to over-ride
a veto like we can?
cali
(114,904 posts)Russia's close alliance with the Assad regime is decades old and Russia and Syria conduct and have conducted a lot of trade. Syria is an important alliance for Russia in the region.
facts fucking matter.
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)it really sickens me to see the admiration on here for that petty, dictatorial, KGB-loving, gay-hating, bloviating, blustering tyrant. Truly sickened. Aren't people here smart enough to see through him?
cali
(114,904 posts)I don't find him admirable and I loath his homophobia, but frankly I'm grateful for the Russian plan re Syria whether it's self-serving or not.
It's not who he is that I'm referencing in the OP, it's specific claims he made. To me this isn't about seeing through him or whether he's an awful man; it's about facts.