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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:04 PM Feb 2012

What bothers me as that if America is a Free and Open Society...where we Protect Freedom of Speech..

WHY is there never any report from dissenting voices like the "BLACK AGENDA REPORT?

http://blackagendareport.com/

I hope there are DU'ers who can answer this question in a rational way. WHY don't posts from this site get any attention?

Surely Readers go to their site and read....but, never any posts from "Black Agenda Report" that I have seen here. Isn't our President partially BLACK?

Shouldn't the views of Black/African Americans be part of a Democratic Undergound Discussion?

If the "Black Agenda" is seen as a "non-approved site" then where is the SOP that speaks to this?

I never see anything here that reports about this site. If it's unapproved by Admins..then it would be helpful to know WHY? Why would a Black Web Group have their voices excluded when we have a President who is in some parts a Black President? In many ways the voices on that web site echo Chris Hedges. Chris Hedges can still be posted here on DU-3, but not Black Agenda Voices or links to their site?

Can anyone help me with this conundrum? WHY?

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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
1. I used to post articles from them. (It has been a long time favorite of mine.)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:09 PM
Feb 2012

They usually dropped like a stone off the 1st page.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. I like to read opposing viewpoints...but not from Ignorant Freeper Sites or MSM/Cable..
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:01 PM
Feb 2012

Just saying... since I've been on "DU" ....I morphed. I now try to find sites that give me a "literate" non-filtered viewpoint that would challenge my original thoughts.

I grew up being taught by folks who believed that bringing "differing opinions" into Discussion was a GOOD THING.

I feel sad for those growing up these days whose school systems are taken over by RW Privatized Charter School Doctrine and the RW re-writing the History of America to their OWN purposes.

I've always been an idealist, democrat who believed that crap they taught us about our Constitution when I grew up. But, Vietnam War set me on my heels when folks in classes after me (the true best and brightest...got the NUMBER and were shipped off and died or ended up with body parts missing.

So...that was my "Radicalization." I haven't gotten over it yet...although I took a time out.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. I think the opinions there are an interesting read...and I'd like "ProSense" to
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:07 PM
Feb 2012

come on and refute some of them...because she/he is very good at what they do in trying to explain what Obama is doing to us.

But, I feel that "ProSense" often doesn't have anyone countering because so many sites are considered "Not Approved" here on DU.

That's what I'm trying to say.

Why CAN't DU-3 OPEN UP DISCUSSION to a wider viewpoint that's out there on the Net?

What could it hurt.

So far it's looking like an "Echo Chamber" around here..and truthfully, that's why I'm still over at the "Quiet Site" of DU-2...where folks don't attack you for every opinion you post or "look over your shoulder" thinking you are some Freeper Troll or Repug Activist trying to undermine the Dem Party. That stuff was making many of us Dem State Activist start to puke.. because it was so OTT and disgusting to trash your Democratic Own People.

Just saying.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
6. Many possible reasons. Here's some...
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:26 PM
Feb 2012

“Republicans don’t know how to run against Obama because he has governed as one of them from the start.”

If the Republicans have been sounding particularly insane, this year, it’s because Barack Obama has staked out so much traditional Republican political territory, they have been forced into Loony Land. The GOP presidential contenders spend their time taking bizarre positions on social issues as “a direct result of Barack Obama having taken over every other Republican talking point.” Obama has traveled “as far to the right as Ronald Reagan but Democrats still see him as their savior, the facts be damned.”
...


It seems strange that the issues of abortion and contraception have taken up such a large proportion of Republican campaign rhetoric. Every Republican presidential debate features candidates outdoing one another in declaring their opposition to a woman’s right to choose abortion.

The prominence of these outlier issues are a direct result of Barack Obama having taken over every other Republican talking point. Before he even took office Obama showed whose side he was on when he made it clear that he would continue the bailouts to the banks that George W. Bush began. He has expanded America’s defense budget and the wars that inevitably result. His “grand bargain” with conservatives has resulted in cuts to government programs and an agreement on austerity measures which are the exact opposite of what should be done to improve the economy and prospects for unemployed people.


Republicans don’t know how to run against Obama because he has governed as one of them from the start. They may mutter about “Obamacare” but his health care plan is a bailout of the health insurance industry and Big Pharma. They can’t call him weak on defense issues when he sends drones to kill people in Afghanistan or Pakistan or when he makes good on his threat to kill Muammar Gaddafi. Even American citizens like Anwar al-Awlaki are not safe when the president decides to literally take them out.


Gingrich may call Obama the food stamp president now, but neither man had any problems with the other when they joined forces to conduct a jeremiad against public education. Gingrich was welcomed to the White House, and he joined Obama mininion Al Sharpton in pushing for privatization of the schools and promoting a panoply of deadly corporate school “reform” measures.



In the big picture (i.e. from Europe), it's all true. But many Americans are deeply grounded in "whatever I was raised with is normal, and left and right are defined relative to that."

Great site. Too much Flash, but I can live with it.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Your points are good ones...and I understand them all. Obama is the Best we can get at this point.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:51 PM
Feb 2012

I understand that...and want him re-elected...but, shouldn't we be thinking forward to what happens AFTER he gets his Second Term?

He's done an incredible job of routing the Repugs and hoisting them on their own Spears. BUT...what happens after. Should we in the Dem Party "outroots" not be concerned? And, I would think that "Black Agenda" certainly has as much right to express their opinions as AIPAC or UNIONS in where the Dem Party moves forward in the Second Obama Term.

Clinton had MonicaGate and had to compromise and give away "Glass-Steagall" (Banking separation FDR's folks put in after the Melt down of the Great Depression and the "Commodities Future Act" which allowed Collateralized Mortgages and Oil and Gas Speculation to go beyond what anyone imagined. Then there was the "Telecommunications Act" that essentially gave away the peoples right to free access to their AirWaves.

Do we want Obama to go the way Clinton did when he was faced with digging himself out of Monica Gate and therefore compromised away the Dem Agenda and hopes and dreams of those who worked so hard to elect him?

Remember...Clinton had HUGE DEM SUPPORT and folks WORKING FOR HIM. Just like Obama he Promised MUCH. We need to make sure that Obama delivers what Clinton couldn't...because if we don't...the Repugs are there working night and day with Koch/Scaife and others on Wall Street.

EDITED: I failed to mention "Welfare Reform" as Clinton's cave to the RW in his Second Term...when he was under MonicaGate. Sorry...that should have been top one.

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