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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 10:55 PM Sep 2013

Story Update: Lac Megantic Train Was Carrying Mislabeled Oil. Officials Say 15 dead, 50 missing

Lac Megantic Train Was Carrying Mislabeled Oil, Officials Say

Canadian officials say the oil carried by the train that derailed in July in Lac-Megantic, Quebec, flattening the town center and killing 47 people, was mislabeled as being less volatile than it actually was.

In a press release Wednesday morning, Canada's Transportation Safety Board said it had analyzed oil from a part of the 72-car train that didn't explode and found it had the characteristics of a Packing Group II product. However, the oil -- which came from North Dakota -- had been labeled as a Packing Group III product when it was loaded onto the train.

While both groups are considered "dangerous goods," Packing Group II includes liquids like gasoline that explode at a lower temperature than Packing Group III.

The fact the oil was mislabeled "explains in part why the crude ignited so quickly once the train cars were breached," the Transportation Safety Board statement said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/12/lac-megantic-train-mislabeled-oil_n_3909175.html

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Story Update: Lac Megantic Train Was Carrying Mislabeled Oil. Officials Say 15 dead, 50 missing (Original Post) The Straight Story Sep 2013 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #1
The rate we are going dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #2
Horrific tragedy. Deserves far more coverage. Nt Barack_America Sep 2013 #3
K&R laundry_queen Sep 2013 #4
Agree Joe Shlabotnik Sep 2013 #8
we do so well without regulation, don't we? robinlynne Sep 2013 #5
72 cars of volitile mislabeled crude... ReRe Sep 2013 #6
Carried in old, unretrofitted tank cars pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #7
Fuck you Big Oil. nt TeamPooka Sep 2013 #9

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. The rate we are going
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 11:45 PM
Sep 2013

we don't have to worry about "foreign" attacks....we are doing a pretty good job of destroying our own country..
Fertilizer plants blowing up, bridges collapsing, houses exploding from gas main leaks.( a LOT of that has been happing last couple of months)
..and other various fall-down-and -go-boom incidents.
Plus the incredible number of forest fires and flooding this summer..

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
4. K&R
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 11:50 PM
Sep 2013

So much indifference in the industry to these dangerous goods. I don't get it. My ex used to transport drums of chemical in a pick up for his job and he often got stopped. He didn't dare mislabel anything, as it meant HUGE fines and possible loss of his job. Apparently transporting dangerous goods on a highway is way more regulated than transporting it by rail. Probably explains the increase in rail transportation of oil.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
8. Agree
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 05:34 PM
Sep 2013

I used to have to transport chemicals all the time too, and I kept everything up to code, because being pulled over by the Ministry of Environment was a frequent occurrence, and being cited would be crippling to my small business. In terms of scale, fines for big business are not a deterrent.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
6. 72 cars of volitile mislabeled crude...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:01 AM
Sep 2013

... headed downhill. What could go wrong?

A "perfect storm" 21st century disaster. I certainly wouldn't think of pointing the finger at the firemen, though.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. Carried in old, unretrofitted tank cars
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:12 AM
Sep 2013

Tank car design may not have made a difference in this derailment because of the speed and vioence of the crash, but it does raise questions about standards for tank cars that may be involved in less-severe accidents, especially with the increased transport of these products. This should give more impetus and urgency to new tank car regs that are already in the rulemaking process in the U.S.

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