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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 08:43 PM Feb 2012

To those supporting Americans elect

Take a look at Ms. Rothchild, one of the heads. She is the one who supported Huntsman, a candidiate that wanted the Ryan plan to kill Medicare.

also, here are some juicy bits from off all places, Huffpo:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/19/lynn-de-rothschild-jon-huntsman_n_1159189.html

Asked who her wish-list candidates might be, de Rothschild named CIA Director David Petraeus, former Washington D.C. Schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee, and David Walker, a former comptroller general of the United States under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

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To those supporting Americans elect (Original Post) DonCoquixote Feb 2012 OP
K&R... SidDithers Feb 2012 #1
I agree, particulaly when we recognize cthulu2016 Feb 2012 #2
I agree DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #13
+1000 Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #15
I agree. n/t FSogol Mar 2012 #20
That's ProSense Feb 2012 #3
Shouldn't DUers and the Democratic Party celebrate this given that it is sure Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #4
It's not splitting the Republican vote. It's to split the Democratic vote. TheWraith Feb 2012 #5
It's ProSense Feb 2012 #7
Agreed DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #14
Here's another ProSense Feb 2012 #6
I think she is angry that Obama beat Hillary Clinton. libinnyandia Feb 2012 #8
She sounds like a typical 'centrist'. The kind we have far too many of in our Party. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #9
Is ProSense Feb 2012 #10
And on the other side, I would never, as a Democrat, support appointing Republicans to sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #19
simple DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #12
This is a Republican ploy to split the Democratic vote, plain and simple. boxman15 Feb 2012 #11
The good thing is that we get to rip theirs & their supporters asses' to shreds here at DU. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #16
Right on flamingdem Mar 2012 #18
Ahh...the nasty "centrists" of the Reagan Party. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #17

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
1. K&R...
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:29 PM
Feb 2012

Promotion of Americans Elect at DU should be a TOS violation, just like supporting any other 3rd party spoiler organization.

Sid

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
2. I agree, particulaly when we recognize
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:31 PM
Feb 2012

that supporting that outfit (I will coin the term "electrons" to designate such supporters) is a challenge to the Democratic party from the right.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. That's
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:38 PM
Feb 2012
Asked who her wish-list candidates might be, de Rothschild named CIA Director David Petraeus, former Washington D.C. Schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee, and David Walker, a former comptroller general of the United States under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

...one of the names Nader mentioned in this clip (at about 4:55 min): http://video.msnbc.msn.com/jansing-and-co/46572542/#46572542

David Walker:

David M. Walker (born October 2, 1951) served as United States Comptroller General from 1998 to 2008, and is Founder and CEO of the Comeback America Initiative. He was considered a potential contender for the Connecticut U.S. Senate seat that Joe Lieberman is leaving in 2012, but chose not to run, and said he would maintain his status as an independent. Similarly, he has been promoted as a potential candidate for President, through Americans Elect.

<...>

Walker served as Comptroller General of the United States and head of the Government Accountability Office (GAO) from 1998 to 2008. Appointed by President Bill Clinton, his tenure as the federal government's chief auditor spanned both Democratic and Republican administrations. While at the GAO, Walker embarked on a Fiscal Wake-up Tour,[1] partnering with the Brookings Institution, the Concord Coalition, and the Heritage Foundation to alert Americans to wasteful government spending.[2] Walker left the GAO to head the Peterson Foundation on March 12, 2008.[3] Labor-management relations became fractious during Walker's nine-year tenure as comptroller general. On September 19, 2007, GAO analysts voted by a margin of two to one (897–445), in a 75% turnout, to establish the first union in GAO's 86-year history.

<...>

In 2008, Walker was personally recruited by Peter G. Peterson, co-founder of the Blackstone Group, and former Secretary of Commerce under Richard Nixon, to lead his new foundation. The Foundation distributed the documentary film, I.O.U.S.A.,[4] which follows Walker and Robert Bixby, director of the Concord Coalition, around the nation, as they engage Americans in town-hall style meetings, along with luminaries such as Warren Buffett, Alan Greenspan, Paul Volcker and Robert Rubin.

Peterson was cited by the New York Times as one of the foremost "philanthropists whose foundations are spending increasing amounts and raising their voices to influence public policy."[5] In philanthropy, Walker has advocated a more action-based approach to the traditional foundation: “I do believe, however, that foundations have been very cautious and somewhat conservative about whether and to what extent they want to get involved in advocacy.”[6] David Walker stepped down as President and CEO of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation on October 15, 2010 to establish his own venture, the Comeback America Initiative

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Walker_(U.S._Comptroller_General)


The other person Nader mentioned was Buddy Romer:



About 5 mins. into clip, Roemer says:

Thank God for the tea party...and thank God for Paul Ryan and the Republican Party and Steve King and others.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/73226294/2012-Presidential-Candidate-Comparison-Chart

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
5. It's not splitting the Republican vote. It's to split the Democratic vote.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:45 PM
Feb 2012

Either by outright promoting a third party candidate, or to serve as a platform for bashing Obama as being too partisan. That's why Nader is pimping it. That's why Christine Todd Whitman is backing it. It's why it's a Republican and right-wing staffed shop.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. It's
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:59 PM
Feb 2012

to attack Obama as a partisan and try to peel away moderates using the bogus non-partisan claim.

It's to support a Republican win. Period.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Here's another
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 09:46 PM
Feb 2012

quote:

<...>

The home now belongs to wealthy financier Sir Evelyn de Rothschild and his wife, Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a well-connected American lawyer and entrepreneur.

<...>

She said she is still registered as a Democrat, but considers herself independent and won’t support the party as long as Obama is president.

“America needs a president who understands the special sauce of what it is that makes this country great,” she said. “The fact of his personal story of being half black and all that is a wonderful, inspiriting story. But it doesn’t qualify him to be president.”

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/07/romney-camp-moved-london-fundraiser-out-huntsman-supporter-home/kvzY9ynIT6gdaqLMv77tzO/index.html

She has issues!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
9. She sounds like a typical 'centrist'. The kind we have far too many of in our Party.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:43 PM
Feb 2012
She is the one who supported Huntsman, a candidiate that wanted the Ryan plan to kill Medicare.


Why would you have a problem with Huntsman? The President appointed him as Ambassador to China. I did not approve of bringing Republicans back into power after we had so successfully thrown them out. I know there were plenty of good Democrats he could have chosen.

Did you support that decision? I'm endlessly curious about how a person can go from being totally acceptable to totally not acceptable depending on who is doing the accepting.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Is
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:50 PM
Feb 2012
She sounds like a typical 'centrist'. The kind we have far too many of in our Party.

She is the one who supported Huntsman, a candidiate that wanted the Ryan plan to kill Medicare.

Why would you have a problem with Huntsman? The President appointed him as Ambassador to China. I did not approve of bringing Republicans back into power after we had so successfully thrown them out. I know there were plenty of good Democrats he could have chosen.

Did you support that decision? I'm endlessly curious about how a person can go from being totally acceptable to totally not acceptable depending on who is doing the accepting.


...this an excuse for Nader supporting her picks and organization? Since every Democrat and four Republicans voted against Ryan's plan in the Senate, that shows you have no idea what a "typical centrist" is, and have no clue what the Democratic Party stands for.

She sounds like a racist to me. Again, your comment sounds like an excuse for Nader because he's hying the agenda of a RW hack!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. And on the other side, I would never, as a Democrat, support appointing Republicans to
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:46 PM
Mar 2012

any position once they are defeated. This is what is wrong with politics. Situational ethics. It's not as if there were not Democrats who would have made great Ambassadors to China or anywhere else.

The people spoke in 2008 and threw Republicans out. Huntsman's views re Medicare should have him unfit for any appointment by a Democrat not to mention his other views.

This is what is wrong with politics.

My comment is simply stating facts. No Republican should be appointed by a Democratic administration. We have enough great Democrats to fill all roles, which is why we elect Democrats and not Republicans.

Your comment seems to be excusing the appointment of Republicans after we defeat them. I disagree with that.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
12. simple
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:01 PM
Feb 2012

It is one thing to hire Huntsman as an ambassador to speak to the Chinese, that job, he is good at. It is another to support his position on medicare (which is to kill it) or Iran (which is to go to war.) If you want a drain unclogged, you call a plumber, you would NOT have that same person do a root canal on you instead of a dentist.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
11. This is a Republican ploy to split the Democratic vote, plain and simple.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:00 PM
Feb 2012

They'll put up a moderate like Huntsman and throw a moderate Democrat on there as well. They're going to convince everyone that Obama is a partisan ultraliberal that wants to destroy America. Meanwhile, Republicans will vote Republican, idiots will vote Americans Elect, and whoever's left will vote Democratic.

At least that's the plan. I doubt anyone will give a shit.

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