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OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:03 AM Sep 2013

NBC First Read: Poll: 44 percent of Americans oppose raising debt ceiling

Complete story at: http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/13/20463534-poll-44-percent-of-americans-oppose-raising-debt-ceiling?lite

Americans overwhelmingly do not think Congress should raise the nation’s debt limit as President Barack Obama and Congress prepare once again to wage battle over the issue, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

By a 44-22 percent margin, Americans oppose raising the debt ceiling, which again puts the president in the difficult position of needing to make the case for an unpopular policy with a deadline quickly approaching.

The poll results come as the U.S. Treasury Department says the country will reach its debt limit by mid-October. The Bipartisan Policy Center estimates the limit will be reached by Oct. 18, and the U.S. could default by Nov. 5.

“People’s first instinct is how fed up they are with Washington and spending,” said Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted the poll with Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart. “This is a very difficult issue in terms of public opinion.”
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NBC First Read: Poll: 44 percent of Americans oppose raising debt ceiling (Original Post) OmahaBlueDog Sep 2013 OP
Who cares? Those 44% probably include a bunch getting monthly checks from the government Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #1
Garbage article, on possibly a garbage poll bhikkhu Sep 2013 #2
The people have been processed into being their own worst enemy cthulu2016 Sep 2013 #3
Only belligerent assholes or people who don't really understand the issue... Silent3 Sep 2013 #4
What kind of crap is NBC trying to feed us? mick063 Sep 2013 #5
The usual kind. nt Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #9
I'm confused JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #6
Defund the DoD PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #7
But hey, we have all the money we need to make the rubble bounce in Syria Fumesucker Sep 2013 #8
Just like the morons.. sendero Sep 2013 #10
Survey: Americans want more benefits, lower taxes to pay for said benefits. And no deficit! reformist2 Sep 2013 #11
44% of Americans want a Greek-style depression. dawg Sep 2013 #12
Tough shit. It's going up (nt) Recursion Sep 2013 #13
Many of them wouldn't mind seeing durablend Sep 2013 #14
 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
1. Who cares? Those 44% probably include a bunch getting monthly checks from the government
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:06 AM
Sep 2013

It is not up to the people to decide. They elect leaders to do the job of leading and managing this country's enormous budget and commitments.

By my math, that means 56% either think it should be raised or have no opinion.

bhikkhu

(10,717 posts)
2. Garbage article, on possibly a garbage poll
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:15 AM
Sep 2013

Nowhere in the article do they say what specific question was asked in the poll, which is shoddy journalism and is usually a sign that it was a "push pull", or worded in a way designed to get a predetermined result.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
3. The people have been processed into being their own worst enemy
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:24 AM
Sep 2013

Not unprecedented, of course.

But the American view of fiscal policy is the product of 30-40 years of pretty intense indoctrination on the topic.

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
4. Only belligerent assholes or people who don't really understand the issue...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:34 AM
Sep 2013

...would be against raising the debt ceiling. No matter how many times it's painfully explained to the American public, they don't understand that it's about covering expenses that we're already obligated to pay. They don't understand the magnitude of a mess that defaulting on our debt would mean.

They take the question as simply being about controlling spending in some vague way, and respond in a simple-minded way against the supposed vice of running up debt.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
5. What kind of crap is NBC trying to feed us?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:46 AM
Sep 2013

No person, in their right mind, would oppose raising the debt ceiling if they:

1) Understood the long history of raising the debt ceiling by a wide spectrum of Presidents.
2) Understood that raising the debt ceiling accounts for paying bills already accrued by Congress.
3) Understood the potential impact upon extremely popular government services that poll very well when specifically presented.
4) Understood that government services must proportionally expand with population growth.
5) Understood that government is subsidizing corporations realizing disproportionate profit relative to middle class recovery.
6) Understood that the highest income earners are paying the lowest tax rate in nearly a century.

Is 44% of America really that collectively dumb? Are people relying on FOX news for 30 brief minutes of an otherwise busy day and believing very bad information?

Is this nation a truly lost cause? Or is NBC pushing a corporate agenda using skewed polling?

I just can't believe that there are that many stupid Americans. It boggles my mind.

If this polling is accurate, we are truly fucked. "You can't fix stupid".

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
6. I'm confused
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 06:48 AM
Sep 2013

Where are the rest of NBC's numbers?

That is 66%. Where are the other 34% on this issue?

44% is not a majority. I went to the article and nothing on the missing numbers.

All I can see is that 44% of Americans are deadbeats who don't want us to pay our bills. They are probably also the people that voted for Bush Co. not once - but twice. You know the guy who got us into two wars, gave permanent tax cuts to the rich, oversaw the financial meltdown and real estate boom and bust . . . The guy who erased the hard work the Clinton oversaw to reduce our national debt.

I bet these people own five flat screen tv's, live in McMansions that are underwater and who spent the Bush Co. years shopping because he told them to.

Fed Gov should not pay any attention to these idiots.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
10. Just like the morons..
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:11 AM
Sep 2013

...who believe we are in a "recovery", yet another segment of society that has their heads firmly up their asses. Go figure.

The good thing? These idiots will be among those hurt the most. The bad thing? Almost everyone gets hurt.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
11. Survey: Americans want more benefits, lower taxes to pay for said benefits. And no deficit!
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 07:13 AM
Sep 2013

It's tough to deal with situations when the "wisdom" of the American people doesn't really make much sense.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
14. Many of them wouldn't mind seeing
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:19 AM
Sep 2013

The country burned to the ground if it meant they could remake it into their own warped view.

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