I might take a break from this place if Obama nominates Summers.

[trumad]

The beat down for being loyal to this President has taken a pretty serious toll on me to the point that I am staggering in my corner.

The towel has come out and is perilously close to being thrown. Do I have what it takes to continue, or will this final blow be the one that finally puts me down for good.

I have read too much about Lawrence Henry "Larry" Summers to know that he is the problem, not the solution to a fair and honest America.

Simply put---Larry is a DOUCHEBAG EXTRAORDINAIRE. From stating that female biologists aren't quite as capable as men, to being one of the main architects of financial deregulation, to helping torpedo Elizabeth Warren's CFPB nomination..... and finally---for his fellatio of the Bull on Wall Street.

NSA--LEFT---SYRIA---UPPERCUT---SUMMERS---RIGHT....

Down goes trumad----Down goes trumad--- Down goes trumad......

[xchrom]

1. according to the nikei - supposed to happen soon. nt

[trumad]

3. Yeah---read that...

The President is tone death if he does. Funny how they leak it to a Japanese news agency.

[JackRiddler]

74. Tone deaf, not tone death...

Though it's political death.

I don't believe he's tone deaf. I don't think he's stupid.

So what's left as a possibility.

[bhikkhu]

54. So far, its being more or less denied

http://www.ibtimes.com/obama-team-denies-nikkeis-report-larry-summers-will-be-named-fed-chairman-1405360

but a good article about why he might is here: http://www.economonitor.com/blog/2013/08/why-is-obama-so-keen-to-appoint-larry-summers-to-the-fed/

[roguevalley]

100. I agree, Trumad. :(

[morningfog]

2. When, not if.

[Autumn]

4. Just have conversations with yourself trumad

those go very well That one made my morning. What do you think will be the knock out blow?

[trumad]

5. Yeah---forgot to log into my sock puppet.

LOL---I wonder if I did have a sock puppet what I'd name it?

[Autumn]

8. Easy, damurt

That way we could know it's you.

[trumad]

11. The whole idea of a sock puppet cracks me up.

Sitting here in my PJ's... talking to myself.... weird.

[Autumn]

17. Just hire someone, let them do your work for you

[Deny and Shred]

24. Knock out blow(s)?

I, too, have felt the punches that have already landed - too numerous to list. What to expect next round?

Summers as Fed Chief (Biff!!), passing TPP (Pow!!), engaging in an slowly-escalating, unpopular war in Syria (Ooof!!), gaining no ground in 2014 (Crunch!!), caving to Republican pressure to defund Obamacare (Ouch!!)

I wish it was all just an episode of Batman, but it isn't.
Hang in there Trumad.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

83. Next round? He could repeat an action related to the loss of 8 Senate races and 54 House seats.

Democrats and Independents are divided on a particular issue, although there are some who claim to be the spokesmen for liberals and the Democratic Party.

In his autobiography, Bill Clinton analyzed the loss of Democratic control of Congress which the Democratic Party had enjoyed since the 1950's.

In his book "My Life," in which he analyzed the loss of Congress to the Republicans in 1994, he wrote:

"Just before the House vote (on the crime bill), Speaker Tom Foley and majority leader Dick Gephardt had made a last-ditch appeal to me to remove the assault weapons ban from the bill. They argued that many Democrats who represented closely divided districts had already...defied the NRA once on the Brady bill vote. They said that if we made them walk the plank again on the assault weapons ban, the overall bill might not pass, and that if it did, many Democrats who voted for it would not survive the election in November. Jack Brooks, the House Judiciary Committee chairman from Texas, told me the same thing...Jack was convinced that if we didn't drop the ban, the NRA would beat a lot of Democrats by terrifying gun owners....Foley, Gephardt, and Brooks were right and I was wrong. The price...would be heavy casualties among its defenders." (Pages 611-612)

"On November 8, we got the living daylights beat out of us, losing eight Senate races and fifty-four House seats, the largest defeat for our party since 1946....The NRA had a great night. They beat both Speaker Tom Foley and Jack Brooks, two of the ablest members of Congress, who had warned me this would happen. Foley was the first Speaker to be defeated in more than a century. Jack Brooks had supported the NRA for years and had led the fight against the assault weapons ban in the House, but as chairman of the Judiciary Committee he had voted for the overall crime bill even after the ban was put into it. The NRA was an unforgiving master: one strike and you're out. The gun lobby claimed to have defeated nineteen of the twenty-four members on its hit list. They did at least that much damage...." (Pages 629-630)

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/legislativenews/clinton8_1_04.html

If Obama wants to further divide Democrats and Independents, he can keep pushing the gun control or gun prohibition issue.

[PowerToThePeople]

103. Foley was my rep

I had a chance for a private conversation with him during the '04 primaries. It involved media bias, Dean scream, etc. I knew Dean was going to continue to get blasted by the media, he was the better choice imo. Foley seemed very wise and slightly saddened by the reality of the propaganda system we were living within.

[AikidoSoul]

124. Move to another country... like Ecuador. Wheee! N/T

[Puglover]

135. I live in Ecuador.

It's paradise. Any other ideas?

[kardonb]

127. knock-oit

I see the "sky is falling " contingent is out in force , again ! Just cooool it , will ya ? You seem to absolutely revel in bad news . Learn to look at the positives : steady , slow economic growth . Beats sudden steep rises and the following , inevitable , crash .

[Autumn]

128. ROTFLMO

Sooooo sensitive.

[Little Star]

6. lol

[Le Taz Hot]

29. That was revelaing . . .

stay classy.

[KG]

7. oh, i can't wait to see how the bog spins his nomination. should be good for a chuckle or 2

but the elevation of kissinger as a respectable elder statesman has been rather sickening.

[trumad]

9. Yeah---that was a gut shot.

Fucking Kissinger.

[panzerfaust]

43. “We are surely a kinder and gentler nation because of you and we can’t thank you enough.”

I know it was a few news-cycles ago, but Obama's ass-kissing of Bu$h-1 is the most venal act I can recall since Ford pardoned Nixon.

[heaven05]

78. It wasn't

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something that made my heart happy, but reality is, if this POTUS had tried to send these RW clowns, all of them, from the last administration, to the Hague, Obama would have been impeached by Democrats and Rethugs and sent to the Hague himself. Political expediency is what he employed. He may just hate GWB's guts, but in reality he can't even hint at it in public. A black man putting down a white man, POTUS to POTUS? Give me a fucking break. AmeriKKKa would have run Obama out of D.C. on a rail. Get fucking real! I wouldn't waste time on the shrub either.

[quakerboy]

139. Absolutely right

Screw constitutional responsibilities of the job, Federal laws, the good of our nation, justice, international laws, basic human decency, all that kinda background stuff. Its would be controversial, so we shouldn't have expected it, nor complained when criminals go free without so much as an investigation of their wrong doing.

[dionysus]

145. astoundingly naive.

if you think the previous admin was going to be locked away for life or executed for treason, and the public would back it, you sadly don't have an ounce of common sense

[quakerboy]

146. All the more reason to publicly compliment them

and above all never ever investigate or attempt to hold them accountable in any way.

[Capt. Obvious]

45. Nobel Peace Prize winner Kissinger

[Jackpine Radical]

52. Them Noble Piece Prize winners stick together.

Then they end up with a Noble Piece of cash for all their work.

[Capt. Obvious]

67. Quit stealing my lines

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3653450

[Jackpine Radical]

73. I didn't just steal it. I street-modified it a little.

[grahamhgreen]

144. Because there is NO ONE else to get advice from on how to avoid a war

[NealK]

156. Oh he can give awesome advices...

About how to commit crimes against humanity and get away with it.

[Mojorabbit]

148. Yes, it made me sick to my stomach. nt

[Marr]

63. I expect the argument will go something like this:

"EMOPROG! RANDIAN JERK FACE! NEO LEFTIST LIBERTARIAN REACTIONARY SCREAMER!".

[L0oniX]

69. Why such a short list?

[Jackpine Radical]

75. What, no

"You always hated Obama."

Remember everything he did for us!

[font color=blue]{Insert a bunch of Links to Nowhere here}[/font]

"Republican Congress"

"Pony"

[QC]

88. Don't forget the first and favorite "argument"--

You never really loved him!!!



I couldn't believe it when that one started showing up, way back in 2007.

[kurtzapril4]

116. You left out RACIST. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

130. Latest is Syria Truther...

[Doctor_J]

141. ratfuck racist

[NealK]

157. Peace Purists!1!!

It's 11 dimensional chess and you're too dumb to understand it!!!

[L0oniX]

65. I won't go in there ...I haven't been vaccinated.

[KG]

68. oh, they'll climb out to GD.

[L0oniX]

71. ...like the Borg trying to assimilate. n/t

[zeemike]

70. Well if you liked that you will love

When W is elevated to a good president....that is coming soon I think.
The Bush brand must be re habilitated...and it has already started.

And the BOG will then tell us he was not so bad...he kept us safe.

[Volaris]

90. And any Democrat with half a brain in their head

will respond with " If Jr. hadn't committed this nation to a decade (at LEAST) in Iraq, and in so doing, burned at least two Presidential Administration's worth of domestic political capital, Assad's chemical weapons would have been obliterated about 6 months ago. Kept us SAFE? From what? Phantom Nukes? Bush may as well have just told us all that he captured the submarine Red October for all the nonfiction quotient Iraq had attached to it. Kept us SAFE? Yeah I don't think so, so try again."

Dems won't HAVE to be Obama supporters in the next presidential cycle the way they had to last time, is the way my thinking goes...Obama will have to be a cheerleader for the Democrats still running. Which means they will be as damn-well Liberal as we REQUIRE them to be, and not an iotia more. So push back. Yeah, we might not win. But like the man said...

"It's not the fights we lose that bother me, Leo. It's the ones we don't bother to suit up for..."-Toby Ziegler

I'm DONE being afraid of the Opposition to what we can actually argue to be Human-ly, Morally Correct. Republican, AND Democratic.

If Warren wants it, I'll back that play.

[zeemike]

92. And I am with you on that.

No more compromising of moral principles...and I will back Warren with all I can muster.

[Volaris]

122. Yeah, and I know the argument will be,

"well, BOTH Parties believe they have the Moral High Ground, sooo..."

Well maybe that's true. But OUR moral high ground doesn't cut food stamp budgets in order to give MORE money to the Corporations who OWN THE FOOD ALREADY.
Put THAT in your oh-so-Moral Pipe and smoke it.

We have do be DONE being afraid of MAKING the argument, for fear that we might LOSE the argument. If we SAY IT, AND LIVE IT, People will know we are not fucking around anymore. Liberalism in America is kinda like Russia...

As soon as they realize that they never WERN'T a Superpower, they will be one AGAIN.

[RandiFan1290]

10. The game is rigged.

[trumad]

12. It is---

There are some in the one percent who may still have morals. BUT the majority...shit....

[CTyankee]

13. I'm just hoping that I'll just throw up once after the announcement and then my stomach

will settle...I'm hoping...

[LuvNewcastle]

14. Enjoy your break!

[hlthe2b]

15. You are channeling me and my thoughts with this, Trumad

Does that make me your sockpuppet?

[trumad]

16. That would be cool

to have a gang of sock puppets.

trumad's sock puppet gang. Oh we so need a Logo.

[mnhtnbb]

18. It's no laughing matter, but I gotta' give it to you, you made me laugh.

I hope to hell this turns out to be floating a balloon just to see
if the wind really does blow hard against Summers.

[kelliekat44]

19. Well I get laughed at and scorned by some here but I still say flood the WhiteHouse.gov site

under "Contact us" and let your opinion be known. Someone there reads those posts because I have received return acknowledgements from time to time. And, although, it may be coincidence, some of the things I suggested seem to be accepted. The one thing the Right has on us is that they truly believe in letting their voice to heard...no matter how ignorant.

Don't leave us Trumad!

[Generic Other]

111. My congressman knows me by name now

They hate when you post your letters to them there.

[abelenkpe]

20. I hope he doesn't nominate summers.

Really bummed if he does.

[Harmony Blue]

21. Summer would be disasterous for a variety of reasons

this would be a major miscalculation by the Obama administration.

[99Forever]

25. Miscalculations...

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... is what this administration does best.

Other than ignoring what We the People have to say, that is.

[truebluegreen]

134. +100

[Jackpine Radical]

58. What miscalculation?

Are you assuming that Presidential appointments are supposed to serve the public interest or something?

The calculations are straight from the banking industry & Wall Street. They never miscalculate when it comes to figuring out what's in their best interest. They save the "miscalculations" for their dealings with the Little People. As in "Oops--we "miscalculated" the amount remaining on your mortgage when we repossessed your house. Sorry 'bout that. Too late to correct it, of course."

[Democracyinkind]

22. Don't give up after Summers!

Instead join me in waiting for the grand blows.. Keystone and TPP... so much more climactic.

Without snark, I feel the same.

[polichick]

23. Stand up trumad!...

Blind loyalty helps nobody - just agree when you agree.

[trumad]

26. Oh I ain't blind...

Never have been...just pragmatic.

[Bluenorthwest]

42. Oh bull, a pragmatist would not try to claim that they are oppressed for

'being loyal to the President'. My God, here you are announcing that if you can not bow in total agreement, you will simply fall silent to avoid honest discussion, then return when you can present as 'loyal to the President' which to you means nodding along with him and attacking those who don't.

[trumad]

82. I'm not oppressed...

just exhausted.

[canoeist52]

27. If he does...

I'm sure it'll be only because as a powerless president, who has done numerous wonderful things for the middle-class, he will be forced to do it by the mean republicans in Congress. It'll be the "far left's" fault somehow.

[WilliamPitt]

28. He's a bad man!

Yeah, if that happens, I'm pretty much done with this administration.

Don't forget: Keystone XL is also lurking out there.

[antigop]

31. Don't forget: TPP and fast track are also lurking out there. nt

[Generic Other]

112. and net neutrality hasn't gone away

nor any of the schemes of the 1% to steal our social security.

[trumad]

33. If by some chance I can survive this blow...

My corner man pushes me back in--- and the Keystone hits.... well--- I may be pushing tulips.

[KittyWampus]

30. hated Geithner can't abide Summers. I can understand Syria though not support it all.

Summers and the Trade deal both stink.

[Little Star]

39. I think this smilie belongs to you.....

Le Taz Hot gave it to me by accident, I think she meant to post it here. lol

[KittyWampus]

50. Old joke from my Grandmother

Why did the fool keep banging his head on the wall?

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Cause it feels so good when he stops.

[Le Taz Hot]

32. Wow, Trumad.

And you've been a huge supporter of this president. This is significant. Most of us know when it's time to take a break from DU for awhile. Do what you must, friend. Then come back to us and help us draft Elizabeth Warren in 2016.

[trumad]

35. I'm a huge supporter because he's done many things that are great...

Got us out of Iraq---pulling us out of Afghanistan... Obamacare---which I think will go done in history as one of the great achievements of any President.... LGBT---etc.

I think he's a good man---- but...

[Le Taz Hot]

40. And you and I have gone head to head on

some of those issues in the past as we disagree as to the "good" he's done. But now's not the time. Just know I wish you the best and will be first in line to welcome you back should you decide to take a break.

[G_j]

34. that, and I have a dread feeling about Keystone

not to mention the slaughter of the wolves.

[jakeXT]

36. Obama team denies report Summers is Fed pick

The White House is disputing a Japanese newspaper's report that former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers will be named the next chairman of the Federal Reserve by President Obama.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/09/13/summers-yellen-federal-reserve/2808511/

[trumad]

37. Hence a trial balloon...

[KittyWampus]

99. from whom?

[NealK]

38. K&R

[Rebellious Republican]

41. Trumad you were and are a cornerstone and a pillar of strength around here.

You were one of my mentors back in the day, you helped school me in DU etiquette (even if occasionally forget now and then) and how to be a yellow dog democrat. I thank you for your tutelage.

However I have spent many years reading your posts, I understand your frustration, I know one thing about you. You have always spoke from the heart, stuck by your guns and never backed down from your convictions.

I believe that we have not heard the last from Trumad, even if you do take a short break from it all.

[geek tragedy]

44. I'll be there with you with a cold pack on my eye.

Summers would make me lose any interest in defending the President. Every reason he has for picking Summers is a bad one.

[L0oniX]

55. Wow ...so finally now I can take you off ignore ...and may I welcome you to the dark side...

where I've been since CPI was offered.

[geek tragedy]

60. I'm not saying I'm gonna believe every negative thing

said about him, just will have no interest in defending someone who decides to appoint High IQ Brownie to the Fed.

[L0oniX]

62. We I believe all have our lines that can be crossed at various times. n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

77. NOBODY--at least around here--

believes every negative thing said about him.

Speaking for myself, I have always given him credit for good things he has done; it's just that he has voluntarily gone in the wrong direction on a number of issues, and in a number of his appointments, and I speak out about those actions.

[Nye Bevan]

46. I guess everyone has a personal "red line" (nt)

[nevergiveup]

47. My inside information tells me that he is not going to nominate Summers.

and no, I am not telling you my sources ......but you might want to bookmark this because I think I am the only one saying it and I am sticking with it. He is not going to nominate Summers.

[KittyWampus]

51. one has to wonder if this is the WH floating Summers' name or his advocates trying to make him seem

inevitable.

[zazen]

106. or to demonstrate that opposition to Summers is too great

Thereby throwing a bone to Summers that he really, really did try, but look what would happen at this difficult time if he moved forward--that sort of thing.

[Autumn]

56. Obama as President has the right to appoint whomever he chooses.

That being said, I agree I don't think it will be Summers.

[Jack Rabbit]

147. As we, as the People, have the right to express our approve or disapproval as we deem fit

Larry Summers isn't fit to be a bank teller, let alone the Fed chairman.

[Autumn]

152. You're right on that. And if he were a bank teller at my bank, I would

switch banks. I really don't think Obama will appoint him, he has to know that would be a losing battle

[Romulox]

48. LOL. Right. THAT will be the move to the HARD RIGHT that breaks the camel's back for you...

The bankster bailouts, the drones, the wars, the ramping up of the War on Drugs? You were fully on board for ALL of that.

[madokie]

49. You are not a quitter trumad

I can't believe you are anyway
Until I hear it from the horses mouth (Obama) I won't believe it, concerning summers.
this place goes all willy nilly on he said, they said and anonymous says so I don't put much stock in any thing posted using those qualifiers
Plus we need you helping us to kick some puke asses around here.

[AngryAmish]

53. When did Summers say women biologists were not as capable as men?

[Jackpine Radical]

72. Try this

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/what-potential-fed-front-runner-lawrence-summers-said-about-women-20130724

The second thing that I think one has to recognize is present is what I would call the combination of, and here, I'm focusing on something that would seek to answer the question of why is the pattern different in science and engineering, and why is the representation even lower and more problematic in science and engineering than it is in other fields. And here, you can get a fair distance, it seems to me, looking at a relatively simple hypothesis. It does appear that on many, many different human attributes—height, weight, propensity for criminality, overall IQ, mathematical ability, scientific ability—there is relatively clear evidence that whatever the difference in means—which can be debated—there is a difference in the standard deviation, and variability of a male and a female population. And that is true with respect to attributes that are and are not plausibly, culturally determined. If one supposes, as I think is reasonable, that if one is talking about physicists at a top twenty-five research university, one is not talking about people who are two standard deviations above the mean. And perhaps it's not even talking about somebody who is three standard deviations above the mean. But it's talking about people who are three and a half, four standard deviations above the mean in the one in 5,000, one in 10,000 class. Even small differences in the standard deviation will translate into very large differences in the available pool substantially out. I did a very crude calculation, which I'm sure was wrong and certainly was unsubtle, twenty different ways. I looked at the Xie and Shauman paper-looked at the book, rather-looked at the evidence on the sex ratios in the top 5% of twelfth graders. If you look at those-they're all over the map, depends on which test, whether it's math, or science, and so forth, but 50% women, one woman for every two men, would be a high-end estimate from their estimates. From that, you can back out a difference in the implied standard deviations that works out to be about 20%. And from that, you can work out the difference out several standard deviations. If you do that calculation—and I have no reason to think that it couldn't be refined in a hundred ways—you get five to one, at the high end. Now, it's pointed out by one of the papers at this conference that these tests are not a very good measure and are not highly predictive with respect to people's ability to do that. And that's absolutely right. But I don't think that resolves the issue at all. Because if my reading of the data is right—it's something people can argue about—that there are some systematic differences in variability in different populations, then whatever the set of attributes are that are precisely defined to correlate with being an aeronautical engineer at MIT or being a chemist at Berkeley, those are probably different in their standard deviations as well. So my sense is that the unfortunate truth—I would far prefer to believe something else, because it would be easier to address what is surely a serious social problem if something else were true—is that the combination of the high-powered job hypothesis and the differing variances probably explains a fair amount of this problem.

[AngryAmish]

93. How is this controversial?

(I did not read the link, only your quote.

[Jackpine Radical]

94. I'm just providing the information, not arguing for or against its controversial nature.

[AngryAmish]

95. Well, thanks for that!

[L0oniX]

57. Wow ...never thought I would say this ...I agree with you and feel the same way ...and

welcome to the dark side ...where I've been since CPI was offered.

[snot]

59. I have to say, the prospect of a Summers appointment

makes me feel physically ill.

The only way I can understand it is if Obama is either (1) a moron, or (2) being somehow blackmailed/coerced.

[Botany]

61. Grin

Grin

If you're up against a bruiser and you're getting knocked about --

Grin.

If you're feeling pretty groggy, and you're licked beyond a doubt --

Grin.

Don't let him see you're funking, let him know with every clout,
Though your face is battered to a pulp, your blooming heart is stout;
Just stand upon your pins until the beggar knocks you out --

And grin.

This life's a bally battle, and the same advice holds true

Of grin.

If you're up against it badly, then it's only one on you,

So grin.

If the future's black as thunder, don't let people see you're blue;
Just cultivate a cast-iron smile of joy the whole day through;
If they call you "Little Sunshine", wish that THEY'D no troubles, too --

You may -- grin.

Rise up in the morning with the will that, smooth or rough,

You'll grin.

Sink to sleep at midnight, and although you're feeling tough,

Yet grin.

There's nothing gained by whining, and you're not that kind of stuff;
You're a fighter from away back, and you WON'T take a rebuff;
Your trouble is that you don't know when you have had enough --

Don't give in.

If Fate should down you, just get up and take another cuff;
You may bank on it that there is no philosophy like bluff,

And grin.
Robert William Service

[Jackpine Radical]

64. Don't worry, old friend.

Lots of room for you.


We just keep bringing in more buses.

[BlueJazz]

66. I know what you mean, trumad. For me, Obama has been like a wierd girlfriend that...

...keeps doing actions that keep me confused.
"Why did you talk to your old boyfriend for 2 hours?"
"WOW!...you want to buy me a men's gold Rolex!"
"Ah...why haven't you answer your phone for 3 days?"

[whistler162]

76. Yeah whatever..... another POUTRAGE!!!!!!!

[HangOnKids]

91. You need new material

Old bread tastes nasty, but thanks for kicking the thread!

[FairWinds]

79. Call Your Congress-critter !!

Among other things, Summers screwed up the Harvard endowment royally . .

And Obama wants to put him in charge of the whole economy ? Really ?

http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/11/29/how-larry-summers-lost-harvard-18-billion/

[AnotherMcIntosh]

80. Seriously, why? This is Democratic Underground, not Obama Underground.

[heaven05]

81. Trumad as hard as political reality is,

DON'T LET THEM BREAK YOU! Our/your integrity and reason is one of the few bastions of sanity left. Keep fighting, don't abandon the battle even if it looks hopeless. We admit defeat only when the last of us falls on the battlefield. And if enough of us are lying on that battlefield, it might make enough people sick enough that it will be the last war. That how I feel today and I do feel your pain.

[trumad]

84. Thanks--- I'm just exhausted with political reality...

I mean---you know it's wrong--- it's right there in front of us. Thousands of words written exposing the wrongness, the unfairness, the trampling of peoples dignity all for the greed of a few.

There are just a couple of politicians who get it... Warren---Grayson...... just a few...and that is the sad reality.

The only thing that's going to change this is........ well fuck, I don't know?

Sometimes I wish I was just a beauty queen from South Carolina.

[heaven05]

86. LOL!

my cat's took off running or just staring at me. I needed that. Thanks. Well, you still have a sense of humor.

[trumad]

87. Ignorance is bliss my friend...

[LuvNewcastle]

89. Holy shit! She must have mad cow disease or something.

Lots of holes in that brain, I suspect.

[polichick]

105. You're just figuring out that change is not likely to come through...

the Democratic Party. That doesn't mean change won't come.

[Enthusiast]

115. "Maps-a"

[cui bono]

138. "Sometimes I wish I was just a beauty queen from South Carolina."

It's never too late to try!

[trumad]

154. is there a 55 and over pageant?

[cui bono]

155. Why yes. Yes there is...

Well it might be 60 and over, but that'll give you time to prepare.

http://www.senioramerica.org/pageants.asp

[PowerToThePeople]

85. Maybe it is time for a new set of loyalties

Stay loyal to your values and morals, not a person, party, or nation. People will inevitably let you down. It is assured. Stay loyal to your values regardless. You will feel much better. You will be a able to muster much more strength fighting against the odds if you are fighting for something you believe in.

[marew]

98. Amen! nt

[truebrit71]

96. It should be fun to at least watch the apologists spin this latest gift to Wall Street...

...my personal 'red line' is after he approves Keystone XL and the 'Pro' crowd try and tell us how this is a 'win for the US and the environment'....

[Demo_Chris]

97. You never REALLY loved him!!!!

[progressoid]

101. And he didn't get his pony.

[Cleita]

102. If that happens, your voice is needed more than ever.

I have put many of those you mention on ignore. It improves things immensely and you can continue to have constructive conversations and debate without the annoyance.

[Octafish]

104. No. No close your eyes, trumad. Bull no knocked up. He glad that man is buy-partisan...

...especially on economic matters. He is just another Big Wig playing rope-a-dope on America:

Larry Summers and Jacob Lew and Penny Pritzker.

It's not water they're splashing on your nice blue trailer.

[Maedhros]

107. As posted elsewhere, there has been ideological continuity from Reagan on.

Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and now Obama push the same Wall Street agenda.

The result: wealth disparity in America is now as horrendously bad as it was in the 1920s. All the money is concentrated in the very, very few hands of the People That Matter, and they get to set the priorities. They are the constituency that gets heard, the rest of us not so much.

[Generic Other]

108. You tried your damnedest to support the president

like a lot of people. It is not your fault. We expected more especially after living under Bush. Obama was our liberator. And it would be hard for any mortal to live up to our expectations. But the sense many have is there wasn't enough of an attempt made. Appointing oldguard rightwingers to positions of power is the worst. I would rather have a greenhorn Democrat acquire some experience on the job than give any job higher than jail trustee to a Bush holdover. We need to homegrow our own progressives! That's a no brainer.

I agree about Summers. And you know what? It makes me wonder about those positions on the SCOTUS that we were warned might need replacing. Seriously, I worry about Obama filling anymore of them if he's going to keep appointing Republicans to key positions. It doesn't make sense.

Do you need some raw steak for that bruise?

[mick063]

109. I fully appreciate your honesty.

Everyone has a threshold. Everyone's threshold comes at different levels.


I gotta ask.

What to do about Hillary?

[trumad]

110. oh believe me...

I won't cut off my nose to spite my face.

If she is the nominee. ...I'll vote for her.

[mick063]

113. I won't lecture you except for a brief comment

I am puzzled by your OP and then this post.

I guess some folks have to find out for themselves. Trial and error is supposed to be a good teaching tool. It only works if lessons are learned from the errors.

There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary would choose a similar cabinet.

None.

[Safetykitten]

114. Now come on..."if"? You though there was an "if"?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

117. Don't you with we had a Democrat that governed like a Republican?

By that, I mean: Not giving a shit about what the other party thinks of them.

The DC Villagers ALWAYS pull this crap.

Republicans get in and the media praises their victory and talks about their mandate and agenda.

Democrats get in and the media talks about how their duty is to "heal the divide" and "stand up to their base'.

[Rex]

118. Nah, you will take it in stride.

I've seen you, you are a scrappy fighter that won't stay down. You are correct, Larry is a symptom of the problem we are facing and a cause of the 2008 global collapse.

I personally don't understand Obama either at times...it is like as soon as he starts to deal with Wall Street, he changes into Mr. Yes.

[Harmony Blue]

121. Trumad isn't a wimp

he may choose to take a break and collect his thoughts. Nothing wrong with that.

[Squinch]

126. +1 Trumad lives nowhere near wimpdom.

[DirkGently]

120. I hope that trial balloon has been thoroughly shot down.

Summers is THE GUY who opposed any regulation on complex securities and icing Glass Steagall. He ridiculed the idea that real estate prices could ever drop nationwide.

He IS the mortgage-backed securities bust that caused a worldwide economic crash.

I refuse to believe this administration would put him in a position to even breathe on the economy.

Summers, who was then Deputy Treasury Secretary, didn't like that idea. He testified during a 1998 Senate hearing that derivatives regulation wasn't necessary because Wall Street could be trusted to police itself

(snip)

In 1999, Summers also played an important role in convincing Congress to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, which had for decades forced banks to keep their commercial and investment activities separate.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/lawrence-summers-federal-reserve-chair-financial-regulation

[Hekate]

123. It's would probably be good for the overall mental health to take a vacay

I should take my own advice, too.

[Squinch]

125. I can't stand Summers, but if he's nominated, the 2014 election will be even more important

for us.

Hang in there!!!!

[DeSwiss]

129. Senator Warren can always place his nomination ''on hold,'' and let it die there.

- In fact, I recommend it!

K&R

[Grateful for Hope]

131. I know you are a supporter of our President, and I understand why you feel this way about

his nominating Summers. I share your feelings here (as a fellow supporter of Obama).

I doubt I will take a break, but I think I will be very close to it. Summers is not what this country needs - in any shape or form.

[IronLionZion]

132. Take a break

A lot of folks who get very emotionally attached to online discussions could probably benefit from taking some time off of the boards for a bit. Go out and live life forum-free. It will still be here if you want to come back later.

I essentially stopped posting here for about 5 years and just came to lurk every now and then. Its a good feeling.

[truebluegreen]

133. Why is your goal loyalty to this President? Or any president?

I do not get that. It is not about personalities, it is about policies!

[Doctor_J]

153. But he's all we have, literally

I can't vote for Boxer or Sanders or Grayson or Baldwin. I voted for Obama because he was far better than the only viable alternative, and I stick with the Dems for the same reason. At least there are a few good Dems in DC. The Republicans can not make such a claim.

But the Lily Ledbetter Equal pay Act doesn't really measure up when contrasted with naming Summers to this job

[another_liberal]

137. No, don't leave and give up!

Stay and bitch about it! Make some goddamned noise!

[Doctor_J]

140. Between Syria, Summers, TPP, and KeystoneXL (coming, I bet),

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this place might be a ghost town by St. Patrick's day. The Dems who share my values don't have a voice in the government any more. The "Democratic" in DU is no longer me. It's heartbreaking. WTF am I going to do on election day?

[emsimon33]

142. Tell me about it!!!!

[grahamhgreen]

143. This is going to be bad for Dems next election:(

[BillyRibs]

149. It's OK,

I gave up on Him at the start of the NSA Baru ha ha! I'm still a Democrat, However LEFT!

[blkmusclmachine]

150. DC is a racket

[orpupilofnature57]

151. Unfortunately the Racketeers don't stay there..

moving to & fro like media, the plague, hysteria . DC should be a gated community and WE should have the keys to the gate .

[blue14u]

158. Trumad.. this is one

of the best threads I have even read..

I hope I have the opportunity to see you here in the future. I realize my

post count is low, but I have been reading and learning from DU since August

of 2012, and recently decided to go "all in" and create a membership account. I campaigned hard for the POTUS both elections. I too am disappointed about who

he has chosen to surround himself with. This thread reminds me of something

my Mother said often to me as a child..and i'm sure many have heard the same..

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER"!

I have myself taken a week or two off during the times of great sadness and disillusionment. I am addicted to the process of politics, and could never fully leave it. Do what you must, and feel in your heart. .. we all do have lines that can't be crossed, and that go against every fiber in our being. I must stay loyal to myself and my values first, and continue to try to make a difference.

What to do about Hillary, is already weighing on me as a to the left, LEFT, Democrat. I keep telling myself,.... wait and see.. it's not a done deal yet! That's how I get thru these days of "what happened to the blue dog Democrats I have always heard about"!