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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 08:59 AM Sep 2013

Florida Bans Obamacare Navigators From Helping Uninsured At County Health Departments

Florida Bans Obamacare Navigators From Helping Uninsured At County Health Departments

Posted: 09/12/2013 11:05 am EDT | Updated: 09/12/2013 8:17 pm EDT

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"This is another blatant and shameful attempt to intimidate groups who will be working to inform Americans about their new health insurance options and help them enroll in coverage, just like Medicare counselors have been doing for years," said U.S. Department of Health and Human Services spokesman Fabien Levy.

Reports the Times/Herald Bureau:

The order from Deputy Health Secretary C. Meade Grigg went out late Monday to the 60 local health department directors across the state.

Grigg declined to comment on the directive. But health department spokeswoman Ashley Carr said there was a need for "clarity" and "a consistent message" across the agency.

"Navigators are not acting on behalf of the {Florida} Department of Health and this program has raised privacy concerns due to the consumer information that will be gathered for use in a federal database," Carr wrote in a statement.



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The "cruel and irresponsible" order will “significantly compromise a multitude of needy Floridians from getting critical health care," retired Pasco County Health Director Marc Yacht told the Times/Herald.

Florida's resistance to the Affordable Care Act is steadfast: It acted as lead plaintiff in an unsuccessful suit to stop the law, and in lieu of accepting an estimated $5 billion in federal grant money each year to expand Medicaid to more than a million Floridians, the state's conservative House instead insisted on using state funds to expand a private program to just 130,000 residents. Florida declined to set up its own state exchange for individuals and small businesses, and then relaxed Tallahassee's ability to regulate rates in the state -- an important consumer protection -- as it ceded control of its exchange to the federal government.

Florida has also refused to advertise the availability of the new program on October 1 even as it bars navigators from helping people sign up at county health centers.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/12/florida-bans-obamacare-navigators_n_3913979.html
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Florida Bans Obamacare Navigators From Helping Uninsured At County Health Departments (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2013 OP
Heard this morning that HHS is doing and end run around this by parterning with CVS, Walgreens etc Lochloosa Sep 2013 #1
I certainly hope so. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #9
Good. elleng Sep 2013 #16
I can't wait for the Federal government to wake up malaise Sep 2013 #2
It worked w/the 55 speed limit years ago. Go against us and no soup for you! CurtEastPoint Sep 2013 #3
The only thing they love is money and white male privilege malaise Sep 2013 #5
some of us live in these rogue states coeur_de_lion Sep 2013 #6
One of my sisters and her family live in one too n/t malaise Sep 2013 #12
OH, so there is not "freedom of speech" for the government? Nice! nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #4
When is going to get obvious that Florida is in desperate Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #7
I don't know why anyone would want to live in this fucked up state. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #8
The water, sailing and the Keys. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #11
This State is certainly paradise for the rich Daniel537 Sep 2013 #24
Sad to report, elleng Sep 2013 #17
3 reasons I am considering moving to Florida golfguru Sep 2013 #27
Lived here all my life and have had my share of run-ins with each. Except the pythons. Lochloosa Sep 2013 #30
As scary as those three might be Daniel537 Sep 2013 #31
I wanted to retire flt rsk Sep 2013 #25
Florida is so damn backwards it's totally embarrassing. avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #10
Illinois is a total mess financially. But, at least we are going full blast with the ACA. mucifer Sep 2013 #13
How bad is your healthcare that you have to have 'navigators?' leftstreet Sep 2013 #14
For those of us without healthcare, a babylonsister Sep 2013 #18
Very good point. FiveGoodMen Sep 2013 #22
It is my understanding that these navigators are going to be SheilaT Sep 2013 #28
I mean, I know Obamacare is far from perfect Iliyah Sep 2013 #15
Well, the insurance companies probably prefer that you die quickly tularetom Sep 2013 #26
Basically failure to expand Medicaid in Florida Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #19
Actually, there are no subsidies for people who are supposed to qualify for the Medicaid expansion. Daniel537 Sep 2013 #23
Brown County WI is doing the same. Myrina Sep 2013 #20
Go figure! Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #21
Rick Perry and Rick Scott have no shame and should be in prison. Rex Sep 2013 #29

Lochloosa

(16,065 posts)
1. Heard this morning that HHS is doing and end run around this by parterning with CVS, Walgreens etc
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:10 AM
Sep 2013

and setting up shop there.

In the end they may reach more people this way.

CurtEastPoint

(18,647 posts)
3. It worked w/the 55 speed limit years ago. Go against us and no soup for you!
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:13 AM
Sep 2013

These GOPers are beyong disgusting.

malaise

(269,026 posts)
5. The only thing they love is money and white male privilege
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:16 AM
Sep 2013

You want to ignore Federal law - no Federal money for you and poor ass Florida would shape up quickly.

coeur_de_lion

(3,680 posts)
6. some of us live in these rogue states
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 09:58 AM
Sep 2013

Not our fault (those of us who didn't vote for him) that our governor is a prize a**h**e.

If they cut us off those who need the help most, who would never have voted for this jerk, won't get help.

Baitball Blogger

(46,725 posts)
7. When is going to get obvious that Florida is in desperate
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:44 AM
Sep 2013

need of federal intervention?

The local political process does not work for ordinary Americans because community leaders and elected officials ignore the laws they do not want to follow, bully those who challenge them, and there is no one here we can depend on.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
24. This State is certainly paradise for the rich
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:03 PM
Sep 2013

for the rest of us working class folk who can only dream of sailing, not so much.

elleng

(130,956 posts)
17. Sad to report,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:13 AM
Sep 2013

a high school classmate of mine says its 'the best,' and WHY? No income tax! I don't discuss these matters with him!

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
27. 3 reasons I am considering moving to Florida
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:17 PM
Sep 2013

1. Alligators
2. Burmese pythons & rattlers & cotton mouths
3. Scorpians

I like to live on the edge hahaha

Lochloosa

(16,065 posts)
30. Lived here all my life and have had my share of run-ins with each. Except the pythons.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:53 PM
Sep 2013

It can get interesting poking around down here.

flt rsk

(92 posts)
25. I wanted to retire
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sep 2013

to Florida for the sailing, fishing, and sand in my shorts. My wife said "NO WAY! Too many old people, white trash, and tourists." So what's one more?

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
14. How bad is your healthcare that you have to have 'navigators?'
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:10 AM
Sep 2013

None of this would have happened with single payer national healthcare

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
18. For those of us without healthcare, a
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:17 AM
Sep 2013

navigator would be helpful, yet too many states still want to deny us the help, the one I live in included.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
28. It is my understanding that these navigators are going to be
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:46 PM
Sep 2013

needed in every state to help the uninsured figure out their options as the new plans become available on October 1st. They will actually go into effect on January 1, 2014.

The choices and options of all health care coverage systems are frustratingly endless. I just turned 65, and even though I'm still working for a large employer and therefore have my workplace insurance as my first coverage, I will someday retire and will then have to figure out exactly what I want to do about Part B. I have a stack of mailings I've never even looked at closely, and dread the day I have to.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
15. I mean, I know Obamacare is far from perfect
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:10 AM
Sep 2013

but damn, at least 30 million can be covered if not more if these assholes allow the option for coverage. As Grayson said they want you die quickly if you get sick (not actual quote).

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
26. Well, the insurance companies probably prefer that you die quickly
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:16 PM
Sep 2013

The medical folks would probably want you to hang on for awhile so that they can make a few more bucks off you before you go.

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
19. Basically failure to expand Medicaid in Florida
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:20 AM
Sep 2013

means anyone making more than $12,000 per year is hosed thanks to Governor Rick Scott. You still qualify for subsidies though but many are not aware of that, especially college aged students that are part time workers and not under their parents existing plan.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
20. Brown County WI is doing the same.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:25 AM
Sep 2013

So are most of the GOP elected-critters in Indiana, "voluntarily" choosing to act like the don 't know anything about it.


FUCKERS.

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
21. Go figure!
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:39 AM
Sep 2013

Much of Scott's $200 million fortune comes from health-care ventures. And before his bid for governor, Scott launched Conservatives for Patients' Rights with $5 million of his money. The organization ran blistering ad campaigns against President Obama's health-care plan.

"I don't think he cares about lowering people's health care costs," said U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Weston, a supporter and spokeswoman for the Democratic health-care policy. "I think he's interested in making sure that health-care corporations make as much money as they can."

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2010/dec/21/scotts-ties-health-care-industry-worry-backers-ove/

“Mitt Romney and Rick Scott. Connect the dots,” the narrator of the super-PAC’s ad says. “Scott ran a company that paid a record fine for committing Medicare fraud. Then, as governor, Scott cut millions from healthcare. Romney was director of a company that stole millions from Medicare. Now, Romney’s plan would end Medicare as we know it. We’ve seen this picture before. Just connect the dots.”
“If Romney wins,” the ad concludes, “the middle class loses.”
In his private equity career at Bain Capital, Romney served on the board of Damon Corp., which defrauded $25 million From Medicare for unnecessary blood tests. He made $473,000 when Corning Inc. purchased Damon in 1993, the Boston Globe has reported. Damon Corp. pleaded guilty in 1996 to a federal conspiracy charge of defrauding the government of $25 million between 1988 and 1993. It paid $119 million fine and penalty.

http://go.bloomberg.com/political-capital/2012-10-31/medicare-fraud-obama-backing-super-pac-ties-scott-romney/

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. Rick Perry and Rick Scott have no shame and should be in prison.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:48 PM
Sep 2013

Instead, because of their insanely evil ways...they are fucking in charge of entire states! Geezz...I hate Texas sometimes, but at least we get good competition for "biggest asshole state of the month" from Florida!

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