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avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:29 AM Sep 2013

War Criminal Henry Kissinger Top Speaker At State Department Conference

The Public Record
Oct 3rd, 2010

Fred Branfman has a great article up over at AlterNet pillorying the State Department’s invitation to Henry Kissinger to address a conference on “the American Experience in Southeast Asia, 1946-1975.” The conference was scheduled for September 29-30 at the George C. Marshall Conference Center at the U.S. Department of State. Along with bona fide war criminal Kissinger, the other invitees included current Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard C. Holbrooke, and Former Deputy Secretary of State, and Former Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte.

It was only last April here at The Seminal/Firedoglake that I reported on the declassification of a 1976 State Department cable from Henry Kissinger to “his assistant secretary of state for Inter-American affairs, Harry Shlaudeman, to cancel a formal demarche to the Uruguayan government, protesting the assassinations and other activities of Operation Condor.” Only five days later, former Chilean diplomat Orlando Letelier and his assistant Ronnie Moffat were assassinated on the streets of Washington, D.C. by a CIA-supported Chilean secret police killer.

But, as the Obama administration rehabilitation of the odious Kissinger demonstrates, memory is short in Washington, even when there is blood on the streets… unless that blood can be turned in for demagogic currency, as is the case with the deaths on 9/11. To have Kissinger honored as an authority on the Indochinese War is an obscenity of the first order. Branfman recalls some of the essential history: . . .snip

...snip
But when it comes to crimes, we’re just getting started here. Christopher Hitchens positioned part of his career as a would-be prosecutor for war criminal Kissinger. A quick review of just the first part of his March 2001 article at Harpers, “The Making of a War Criminal,” notes Kissinger’s activities. For instance, there was the “recruitment and betrayal of the Iraqi Kurds, who were falsely encouraged by him to take up arms against Saddam Hussein in 1972-75, and who were then abandoned to extermination on their hillsides when Saddam Hussein made a diplomatic deal with the Shah of Iran…” Or consider “Kissinger’s orchestration of political and military and diplomatic cover for apartheid in South Africa.” Or read Hitchen’s detailed, documentary discussion of Kissinger’s brain-trusting for assassination and coup plotting in Chile.

http://pubrecord.org/politics/8347/criminal-henry-kissinger-speaker-state/

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War Criminal Henry Kissinger Top Speaker At State Department Conference (Original Post) avaistheone1 Sep 2013 OP
going to be very ill here. niyad Sep 2013 #1
All the good young people killed in Cambodia and Chile, and this fucker just turned 90. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #2
this is beyond maddening. cali Sep 2013 #3
Absolutely appalling avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #5
++++ 2banon Sep 2013 #6
Kissinger and Negroponte. Blood, blood every where. (nor any life to see) Solly Mack Sep 2013 #4
Excellent article 2banon Sep 2013 #7
The hits just keep coming. I can't wait for the spin on this one. idwiyo Sep 2013 #8
Awwww but he's 90 he's all grandfatherly and shit. All is forgiven. Just ask Chileans, Vietnamese, Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2013 #9
Let me suggest something, Skidmore Sep 2013 #10
This is where I am torn. I know you are right from a pragmatic view, but, blm Sep 2013 #13
yes but for some politicians their expertise is clouded by their own perception of the world. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #19
No, but there is something to be said for Skidmore Sep 2013 #21
I try not live in a black and white world but it just seems like the balance is tipped way in the liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #22
We need to be hearing all parties to Skidmore Sep 2013 #23
The "how" of diplomacy is not exactly the same as the application and direction loyalsister Sep 2013 #20
Looking forward to what will be revealed when Kissinger and Poppy Bush pass blm Sep 2013 #11
What can you say? Really. Not expected? Surprised? Safetykitten Sep 2013 #12
Looking forward, I guess. Sigh. Scuba Sep 2013 #14
Maybe Kerry chided him gently when they met a couple of days ago. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #15
K is juyst catching up on the current batch of war crimes to compare and reminisce nt msongs Sep 2013 #16
"Of course, Hillary Clinton deserves her own share of obloquy for inviting Kissinger and friends" ProSense Sep 2013 #17
Grousing about war crimes is SO seven decades ago. JoeyT Sep 2013 #18
kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #24
kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #25
 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
5. Absolutely appalling
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:48 AM
Sep 2013

but they are swept under the rug.

His crimes against humanity, and his derision of the rule of law and the Constitution is despicable.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
6. ++++
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 11:53 AM
Sep 2013

shucks, keyboard command malfunction.. just wanted to indicate I share your sentiments cali..

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
7. Excellent article
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:04 PM
Sep 2013

but his congressional confirmation in 2005 exposed the depth of hypocrisy of our amazing congress critters wrt to 'evil doers' of the other countries.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
9. Awwww but he's 90 he's all grandfatherly and shit. All is forgiven. Just ask Chileans, Vietnamese,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:08 PM
Sep 2013

Cambodians, Laotians, Argentinians, Cypriots, East Timorese, Greeks......

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
10. Let me suggest something,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:10 PM
Sep 2013

and this is not a defense of Kissinger. Has it occurred to anyone that Kissinger probably knows where a lot of political bodies are buried as well, and was instrumental in some seriously bad policy over decades. War criminal or not, no doubt there is some truth to the notion that he is an "expert" in a nefarious kind of way and that is why administration after administration go back to him. Nixon did a hell of a lot of damage when he was in office and it still ripples outward. Just because power is transferred across generations doesn't mean that all previous history ceases to inform that which follows.

blm

(113,061 posts)
13. This is where I am torn. I know you are right from a pragmatic view, but,
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:21 PM
Sep 2013

it is painful to see the courtesies extended to him, knowing how criminal he was in his actions and in his negligence.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
19. yes but for some politicians their expertise is clouded by their own perception of the world.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:43 PM
Sep 2013

Would anybody on this site like to see future generations consult with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, or Cheney? I doubt it.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
21. No, but there is something to be said for
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 03:29 PM
Sep 2013

historical memory. Once players are removed from the scene, distortions occur, some intentional and some not. Like it or not, we live in a world of both good and bad actors. You cannot sanitize history or current events, which are both carried out by very flawed humans. None of us are perfect, not even DUers.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
22. I try not live in a black and white world but it just seems like the balance is tipped way in the
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:08 PM
Sep 2013

favor of those who would use power for their own wealth and power. We need to be looking to people who can help us find a new way to solve problems. We've been looking to people like Kissinger, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others like them for too long. We need some different ideas from someone that can offer a different perspective.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
23. We need to be hearing all parties to
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:16 PM
Sep 2013

historical events, particularly those who actively participated in them. Now that does not mean that current or future decisions must be identically constructed. It does mean that the context for grievances and alliances must be understood.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
20. The "how" of diplomacy is not exactly the same as the application and direction
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:58 PM
Sep 2013

I have learned a lot about advocacy by taking opportunities to talk with paid lobbyists who I generally consider an enemy. Disillusioned republicans are full of good information.
They are often pissed at people with whom they used to have drinks and dinners and they will talk and reveal who might be receptive to particular arguments. I have taken advantage of that when trying to push bills. I would not be surprised if we eventually read about republicans Obama interacts with who have told him "I told him\them so" re: Bush and co.

blm

(113,061 posts)
11. Looking forward to what will be revealed when Kissinger and Poppy Bush pass
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 12:19 PM
Sep 2013

from this earth and through the gates of hell.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. "Of course, Hillary Clinton deserves her own share of obloquy for inviting Kissinger and friends"
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 01:53 PM
Sep 2013
What Has Hillary Wrought?

Of course, Hillary Clinton deserves her own share of obloquy for inviting Kissinger and friends, including former Kissinger protege Holbrooke and the latter’s former Saigon Foreign Service roommate, the unsavory John Negroponte. (Negroponte worked at the U.S. Embassy in Saigon from 1964-68… uh huh.) One could write an entire column about the war crimes of Mr. Negroponte, who, according to the introduction by the National Security Archive (NSA) to a slew of documents implicating him, as former U.S. Ambassador to Honduras in the 1980s “sought to undermine regional peace efforts” in the Nicaraguan Civil War. NSA also cites “multiple reports of meetings and conversations [by Negroponte] with Honduran military officers who were instrumental in providing logistical support and infrastructure for CIA covert operations in support of the contras against Nicaragua.”

Another strike against Hillary 2016?



JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
18. Grousing about war crimes is SO seven decades ago.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 02:39 PM
Sep 2013

We're all about pragmatism. So he had a hand in the deaths of a few (hundred thousand) brown people. So what? What matters is that he gets shit done.

It does add a further layer of irony to being all outraged about war crimes when you don't even pause for breath before cuddling up to a war criminal.

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