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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:25 AM Mar 2012

DEA chief: Pot is dangerous because it causes mold&water damage

Rep. Jared Polis mocks Colorado’s new DEA chief


Democratic Rep. Jared Polis of Colorado on Wednesday poked fun at his state’s new head drug enforcement agent, joking that the Drug Enforcement Agency’s new motto was “protecting America from mold and water damage.”

Barbra Roach, the chief of Denver’s Drug Enforcement Administration, recently told the Denver Post that medical marijuana was dangerous because it caused “mold and water damage” in the homes of people who grew it.

“That’s just a very strange thing to say,” Polis wrote on Facebook. “No doubt that some idiots have flooded their basements growing marijuana. No doubt that some idiots have flooded their basements growing tomatoes. I stained my tiles in my living room last year growing narcissus. Ok. So for this we need a federal cop busting people?”


“The fact that an opponent of medical marijuana uses arguments like ‘it causes water damage to homes’ shows how bankrupt that side is of facts,” he added.

Polis has previously called for an end to the war on drugs, proposing legislation to eliminate funding for the Office of National Drug Control Policy and other bills.





http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/29/rep-jared-polis-mocks-colorados-new-top-dea-agent/

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DEA chief: Pot is dangerous because it causes mold&water damage (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2012 OP
Good for Polis. He's skewering with the best here. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2012 #1
I see there are two types of "dope" MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #2
"Don't Bogart that" Roach Angry Dragon Mar 2012 #3
... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #7
President Obama has lied on this issue Ichingcarpenter Mar 2012 #5
+me, too MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #8
I posted Carter's address to congress Ichingcarpenter Mar 2012 #9
yep Go Vols Mar 2012 #10
"his DEA is going gang busters on medical MJ" boppers Mar 2012 #14
Just keep on believing that. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #22
Not true in Mendocino County CA. roody Mar 2012 #25
I heard about a shop in Mendocino getting busted that was turning a huge profit... boppers Mar 2012 #32
The County Supervisors and sheriff roody Mar 2012 #36
No such thing as a legal pot *farm* there. boppers Mar 2012 #38
Call it what you wish. roody Mar 2012 #43
They're "not legal" because Federal Law still states that marijuana is illegal. EOTE Mar 2012 #26
Profiting off of it is illegal in most cases. boppers Mar 2012 #31
So once again, Obama was full of shit. EOTE Mar 2012 #35
He said he would not be targeting legal mmj. boppers Mar 2012 #37
Once again, there is NO SUCH THING as legal MMJ from a Federal perspective. EOTE Mar 2012 #39
now here I was, thinking that non of the pols here in CO had done or said anything really niyad Mar 2012 #4
That's why they call them "DOPES" socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #6
lol fishwax Mar 2012 #11
Yeah that is the sound one makes when Rex Mar 2012 #12
But I like Mold and water damage DearAbby Mar 2012 #13
Actually I take it back, moldy bongwater is Rex Mar 2012 #15
Hey, Moldy Bongwater is my stage name. Careful what you say about him. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #20
That just shows you how desperate the DEA is, in coming up with any logical, rational argument Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #16
They're grasping at stems now. eShirl Mar 2012 #17
Barbara Roach. "Yess, This is Drug Chief Barbarrra Rrrrroooach... Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #18
So Roach is clearly in favor of banning plumbing. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2012 #19
Water is the cause of mold Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #21
(.) this is your ass on drugs. Hubert Flottz Mar 2012 #23
Whoever thought of that talking point was high. Fuzz Mar 2012 #24
Why can't there be an intelligent debate about drug policy? felix_numinous Mar 2012 #27
Holms on Holms had an episode on this One_Life_To_Give Mar 2012 #28
Did you watch the episode? snooper2 Mar 2012 #29
Maybe I need to watch again One_Life_To_Give Mar 2012 #42
oh yeah angel823 Mar 2012 #30
I guess now it's time to "invest" billions into a War on Rain. n/t Withywindle Mar 2012 #33
Barbra Roach is a parasite on the taxpayer dollar. Dawson Leery Mar 2012 #34
At least he did zero in on the best argument they have L. Coyote Mar 2012 #40
High-ons growing hydro JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #41
fuck MMJ crimsonblue Mar 2012 #44
.. mdmc Mar 2012 #45

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,641 posts)
1. Good for Polis. He's skewering with the best here.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:29 AM
Mar 2012

Unbelievable that the head of the DEA in Colorado would make such an argument. It's really stupid.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
2. I see there are two types of "dope"
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:31 AM
Mar 2012

One is called Barbra Roach.

Hey! Barbra ROACH? You gotta be kidding me, right?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. President Obama has lied on this issue
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:39 AM
Mar 2012

I have noted many times how he said it was up to the states and the states have the right for medical MJ before his election.

But his DEA is going gang busters on medical MJ in fact Colorado is now on his shit list.



Although Colorado has legalized medical marijuana, those who distribute the drug still risk running afoul of federal law. The Obama administration’s Department of Justice has made a practice of not prosecuting medical marijuana patients in states where the drug has been approved, but it still considers distributors to be fair game for arrest.

In January, U.S. Attorney John Walsh sent letters to 23 medical marijuana dispensaries in Colorado, warning them that they faced legal repercussions if they did not close down within 45 days.


He needs to change MJ from a schedule I drug like President Carter Advocated to Congress .

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. I posted Carter's address to congress
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:47 AM
Mar 2012

when the DEA started closing MJ in California... you can do a google on it
I need some more coffee right now..LOL

boppers

(16,588 posts)
14. "his DEA is going gang busters on medical MJ"
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:47 AM
Mar 2012

Not a single 100% legal shop has been busted.

Dealers skirting the law? In spades.

Sure, lots of "non-profit" shops with millions in the bank are complaining of persecution.

If you examine the above sentences, it's not that complicated.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
32. I heard about a shop in Mendocino getting busted that was turning a huge profit...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:10 PM
Mar 2012

Are you talking about an actual non-profit?

roody

(10,849 posts)
36. The County Supervisors and sheriff
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 06:36 PM
Mar 2012

spent hundreds of hours crafting and passing an ordinance to regulate medical mj. It was just abandoned since the feds have raided pot farms that went through the rigorous approval process.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
38. No such thing as a legal pot *farm* there.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:39 AM
Mar 2012

25 plants, and 2 lbs processed, maximum, per patient served, *and* no more than 25 plants on any single parcel of land, (for an indoor grow, you can use 100 sq. ft.), and the plants cannot be visible from public or private roads (etc etc.)

http://www.mendocinosheriff.com/mm/Ord4291.pdf
http://www.mendocinosheriff.com/mm/931SheriffsSummary.pdf
http://www.mendocinosheriff.com/pdfs/2009-04-03-No1_JN.pdf
http://www.mendocinosheriff.com/mm/stateAGAugust08.pdf

That's not a farm, it's a tiny greenhouse, or a garage. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the feds *and* locals raided pot farms, as those aren't legal there, according to the local laws.

roody

(10,849 posts)
43. Call it what you wish.
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:47 AM
Mar 2012

They could have 99 plants before the feds started raiding. The feds raided legal grows.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
26. They're "not legal" because Federal Law still states that marijuana is illegal.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:39 PM
Mar 2012

Which is exactly the kind of bullshit that Obama promised to stop. But he was lying his ass off. And he lost quite a few supporters for that. You can defend this lying bullshit all you want. Not many buy what you're shoveling.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
35. So once again, Obama was full of shit.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:57 PM
Mar 2012

He said that his DOJ would NOT be targeting MMJ facilities. He didn't say ANYTHING about whether this was applicable just to non-profits. Marijuana is illegal by federal law, PERIOD. We're not discussing legalities, we're discussing whether or not Obama can be trusted to keep his word. With his DoJ going crazy on MMJ facilities, we can be sure that his word is pretty much only used to garner political points. He's not trustworthy.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
37. He said he would not be targeting legal mmj.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 01:06 AM
Mar 2012

States have non-profit laws, distance from public parks laws, worker payment laws (etc.) and MMJ doesn't get exempted from all state and federal laws solely because of the product they sell.

Care to offer an example of a place busted for 100% legal MMJ sales?

Or perhaps, point me to where Obama said that you can commit federal tax evasion (or any crime, for that matter), without fear of arrest or prosecution, as long as you have a MMJ storefront?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
39. Once again, there is NO SUCH THING as legal MMJ from a Federal perspective.
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:51 AM
Mar 2012

So when he said that he wouldn't target them for prosecution, he meant just that.

Extremely few of these dispensaries are being targeted for tax evasion, almost to a T, they're being prosecuted because they dispense MMJ. Almost all of the dispensaries are being targeted because they're breaking FEDERAL LAW.

Obama was full of shit, I can't believe there are some here who are still defending this egregious action.

niyad

(113,370 posts)
4. now here I was, thinking that non of the pols here in CO had done or said anything really
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:35 AM
Mar 2012

embarrassing today (I mean, dougie IS in prison) and then I have to read this.

we can't even use the "altitude moment" for her-- oh, wait, Denver IS known as "the mile HIGH city"

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
6. That's why they call them "DOPES"
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:40 AM
Mar 2012

Because they don't need to do any drugs before they say stupid things!

"Gee, why is it, every time I try to think, I get the munchies!"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. Yeah that is the sound one makes when
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:12 AM
Mar 2012

grasping at straws...pretty much illuminates the whole sorry lot that hates pot for existing.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. Actually I take it back, moldy bongwater is
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:49 AM
Mar 2012

no laughing matter...that smell never comes out of the sofa if you spill it!!!!

Uncle Joe

(58,367 posts)
16. That just shows you how desperate the DEA is, in coming up with any logical, rational argument
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:05 AM
Mar 2012

for waging the insane prohibition policy against cannabis, I've heard of grasping at straws but this is ridiculous.

Thanks for the thread, Ichingcarpenter.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. Barbara Roach. "Yess, This is Drug Chief Barbarrra Rrrrroooach...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 05:54 AM
Mar 2012

...the request lines are now open open open open open"

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
27. Why can't there be an intelligent debate about drug policy?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:30 PM
Mar 2012

This is like trying to debate with an annoying child. The establishment in this country says anything just to keep doing what they're doing, and do not care if it makes no sense, as if they are just buying more time.

"Oh let's run this nonsense up the flagpole and see how long it flies."

Can we PLEASE have a discussion with some real adults that care?

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
28. Holms on Holms had an episode on this
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:06 PM
Mar 2012

Trying to turn a residence into a Hidden Hot-House will cause Mold and Humidity damage. Not to mention that it accompanies theft of thousands of dollars in electricity. But that is because one is trying to Hide it. An aluminum framed glass greenhouse could properly do all of that with the exception of keeping itself hidden from the authorities.

But we can't end prohibition. The drug cartels would have to build a new Vegas if we did that.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
29. Did you watch the episode?
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 03:14 PM
Mar 2012

There was minimal water/mold damage from the grow up, just a little mold on some exposed drywall from watering.

When they started getting into it the whole damn house was a mold trap before the grow op was even there LOL. You never know what you find when you start peeling those walls back.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
42. Maybe I need to watch again
Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:04 PM
Mar 2012

Thought it was the Industrial Humidifiers that caused the mold behind the Drywall. Don't remember anything about it being there before the grow-op started.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
34. Barbra Roach is a parasite on the taxpayer dollar.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 04:42 PM
Mar 2012

People such as Barbra Roach do not have what it takes to go after child sex trafficking.

crimsonblue

(5,337 posts)
44. fuck MMJ
Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:51 AM
Mar 2012

give me real, legal pot. life (aka work bc work feels like your only life) sucks donkey balls some days, and a little bit of green would make it so much better.

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