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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:21 PM Sep 2013

Per Washington Post: 7 dead, 2 suspects in uniform (!) sought

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/police-search-for-active-shooter-on-grounds-of-washington-navy-yard-in-southeast-dc/2013/09/16/b1d72b9a-1ecb-11e3-b7d1-7153ad47b549_story.html

Lanier described one as a white male wearing what appeared to be a khaki tan military uniform and a beret, and carrying a handgun. She said police also are looking for a black man, about 50, wearing an olive military-style uniform, and possessing a “long gun.”

...

Authorities have confirmed at least seven fatalities, including the shooter. The dead shooter had an assault rifle and a handgun, two law enforcement officials said. One said he also had a shotgun.

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Rick Mason, a program management analyst who is a civilian with the U.S. Navy, told the Associated Press that a gunman was shooting from a fourth floor overlook in the hallway outside his office. He said the gunman was aiming at people in the building’s first floor cafeteria.


Boy, depending on what that means...
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Per Washington Post: 7 dead, 2 suspects in uniform (!) sought (Original Post) Recursion Sep 2013 OP
My wife works near there and they have their office in total lockdown also. DCBob Sep 2013 #1
My son is uptown, thankfully - lynne Sep 2013 #2
It would not surprise me if it turns out that there was just one shooter... Schema Thing Sep 2013 #3
They got into a secure building with long weapons. haele Sep 2013 #4
It would be pretty easy to get badges, card keys and codes FarCenter Sep 2013 #7
If you listened to the press conference earlier, they also said frazzled Sep 2013 #5
I am hearing 12 dead gopiscrap Sep 2013 #6

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
1. My wife works near there and they have their office in total lockdown also.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:28 PM
Sep 2013

Its a bit freaky around here at the moment. There are suspects at large. It kind of reminds me of the "sniper" days.

lynne

(3,118 posts)
2. My son is uptown, thankfully -
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:32 PM
Sep 2013

- but I still messaged him to keep his butt in his office at lunch. Can't imagine what the trip home will be like.

Yes, it is a bit like the sniper days. Ugh!

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
3. It would not surprise me if it turns out that there was just one shooter...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:35 PM
Sep 2013

in spite of these reports.


I'll admit I haven't been following this except for here on DU, but in the fog and confusion of a crisis, 95% of the breaking news turns out to be false.

haele

(12,671 posts)
4. They got into a secure building with long weapons.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:50 PM
Sep 2013

Not weapons that are easy to hide. That's what is even more concerning.
And it's not just a matter of getting past the Navy Yard gate guard, park and hop in, and then get past a guard at a desk; there are areas where they also need cards with an entry code to get through the security door, especially in the upper floors. Perhaps not in the more open perimeter walkways (or "overlooks&quot , but inside, where they could get protection to continue their rampage from the police or other LEOs.

Bldg. 197 is a warren of cement offices, where there's a lot of blocked angles and cover to move around in. There were easier places to "hit" in the Yard, but not many are as easy to stay protected in. I've been there before.
I'm pretty sure these people knew exactly where they were and had planned their movements well in advance.

Haele

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. It would be pretty easy to get badges, card keys and codes
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 03:02 PM
Sep 2013

Identify an employee that looks like you, take their family hostage, kidnap the employee and threaten to kill the family if he doesn't give up the credentials and codes, kill them all, drive to the facility and enter.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
5. If you listened to the press conference earlier, they also said
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 01:51 PM
Sep 2013

these two guys were not thought to be members of the military but were wearing military-style uniforms. So don't jump to conclusions. In fact, everything may be wrong at this point.

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