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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:49 PM Sep 2013

I don't understand this paragraph in the lease. Can someone explain it to me?

Term:

The term hereof commence in ________ until the last day of.________

Either shall terminate the same by giving the other party 30 days written notice delivered by certified mail, provided that the Tenant agrees not to terminate prior to the expiration of One (1) month.


I will admit I am stupid I expect to be told so. I just want to know if this means my wife and I can move out early?

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winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
1. To me, it looks like 1) if you've been there at least a month
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:53 PM
Sep 2013

and 2) you give 30 days notice via certified mail, you can move out before the end of the lease.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
2. Yes, agree with above poster. As long as you give a 30 day notice, by certified mail, you can
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 09:59 PM
Sep 2013

terminate the lease. Based solely on the clause you provided.

Uncle Joe

(58,426 posts)
3. That's a poorly written paragraph it should be crystal clear that you can give a 30 day written
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:00 PM
Sep 2013

notice prior to the expiration of your lease.

As it's written that could be an annual lease that can be broken by either party after only living there for 1 month.

If you want an annual lease that should be spelled out clearly and it shouldn't make any difference to the lessor if you give him 45 days notice so long as you stay there for the term of your lease.

Thanks for the thread, diabeticman.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
4. That's what it looks like to me, too
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:00 PM
Sep 2013

You agree to stay at least one month, then can give notice. So your minimum time could be 2 months.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. You have to stay there for 2 months
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:03 PM
Sep 2013

After 1 month, you can if you want break the lease, but you have to give the landlord 30 days notice, so that's another month basically.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
6. I'd have to see the rest of the lease
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:03 PM
Sep 2013

but be careful of the notice required. Many leases require notice 30 days PRIOR to the due date of the NEXT month's rent.


If your rent is due on the 1st of the month and you want to leave anytime in November you need to give notice BEFORE Oct 1. Leaving any time in December? Give notice BEFORE Nov 1 and so on.

Looks like you need to stay at lease one month before giving notice.

I'm a licensed real estate broker and property manager.

PM me and I'll look over the lease for you.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
7. That's how I read it too.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:04 PM
Sep 2013

You have to stay at least thirty days and must give thirty days notice via certified mail to break the lease.
Technically you could give notice on the day you move in and leave after the first month.
It's definitely in your favor.

Uncle Joe

(58,426 posts)
10. Unless the OP wants to stay there for the full term of the lease and the lessor doesn't want him/her
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:57 PM
Sep 2013

to.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. I'm going to suggest that you also ask
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:55 PM
Sep 2013

your new landlord what he means.

It's possible that what is intended is the lease last for a year, but is trying to clarify the 30 day notice to terminate.

I'm not an attorney, nor am I terribly savvy about leases (others here do seem to know much more) but I'd like to see you attempt to clarify what is actually meant, and then having that paragraph re-written so it is in clear language.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. As many have stated ...
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 11:00 PM
Sep 2013

You must stay at least one (1) month of the lease period, afterwhich you can terminate the lease with 30 days notice delivered by Certified Mail.

As the real estate guy/gal stated:

If your rent is due on the 1st of the month and you want to leave anytime in November you need to give notice BEFORE Oct 1. Leaving any time in December? Give notice BEFORE Nov 1 and so on.


But two things ... first, pay attention to the blank terms:

The term hereof commence in ________ until the last day of.________


Not having that section completed, I cannot tell if it is a month to month lease, or what. Different states have different rules governing month to month leases versus longer term leases.

Secondly, take notice ... the second term allows you to terminate the lease with 30 days notice; but it also allows the landlord to terminate with the same notice.

If you have other options, I would look else where ... it appears to be a cobbled together lease by someone that either doesn't know much about contracts, or worst, wants to be able to break the lease for whatever reason.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
12. Basically it was Jan 1st 2013 to Dec 1 2013. My wife requested I leave them blank
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 02:01 AM
Sep 2013

She is scared the landlord might be on the forum and kick us out.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
13. I'd take Sedona up on the offer to look over your lease.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 02:06 AM
Sep 2013

IIRC, you've been having problems with this landlord, so I'd be doubly cautious.

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