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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsObama should just unilaterally raise the debt ceiling
claim the 14th amendment lets him
the house can then try to impeach him but it will die in the senate and it will be the end of the GOP
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)Stargazer09
(2,132 posts)But it's nice to have a backup plan.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I'm pretty sure they (Kochs and Co) already have the ads ready to go should the president try this. With half of constitutional professors being for the president using the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling and the other calling it unconstitutional, the GOP will then have more red meat to toss to their rabid radicals to try and impeach - even if it is unsuccessful.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)he's a pretty good political strategist...
Lasher
(27,637 posts)Even if he survived impeachment over such an unconstitutional act, he would at least unify Republicans and probably sway public opinion in their favor.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. - Napoleon Bonaparte
rdking647
(5,113 posts)the resulting chaos would make the 2008 bush recession look like a drop in the bucket.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Not to mention you don't want to set a precedent for the inevitable GOP administration to disregard the Constitution.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)It's too risky politically, IMO. The repukes would go off the tracks over it.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)If your enemy is standing in a pool of gasoline and wants to smoke give him a match.
The Republicans would start a civil war in their caucus on impeachment.
The blowback from that would be huge.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Politically, I think it would be a huge mistake and hurt the Dems overall.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)This is about a continuing resolution to extend the budget.
Debt ceiling comes in about 3 weeks.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)and i have no doubt the teahaddists will try and push us over the edge
better to prepare now
grantcart
(53,061 posts)one is just getting started is just confusing.
It may well end up that they roll both of them together.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)It doesn't help if we do not know what the hell is going on either.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Beearewhyain
(600 posts)a way to start a preemptive court case on the 14th Amendment validity clause before it get's to default. Let the Supremes make a ruling and then go from there. However, I don't know if it's possible to start a case without him invoking the 14th in the first place, which would start a Constitutional crisis. Would still be better than default IMHO.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)We don't have a continuing resolution right now, much less a budget!
ladjf
(17,320 posts)order to raise the debt ceiling unilaterally. Probably the 14th amendment would be the best choice.