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Grover Norquist writes and delivers talking points to the Republicans in Congress. I hadn't seen anything from him lately so had to search. Maybe this was posted before, it's from yesterday, but if you want to be informed on what's behind Republicans
please read this.
The weasel Norquist blames this on Cruz.
PLUS, what's with the Vendetta mask on his desk?
"V" for "very low taxes." (Bill O'Leary / The Washington Post)
Grover Norquist on Ted Cruz: He pushed House Republicans into traffic and wandered away
By Ezra Klein, Published: October 2 at 2:58 pmE-mail the writer
Ezra Klein: So, do you think a shutdown is good for the issues and ideas youre trying to push?
Grover Norquist: Not necessarily. I think the original plan for the Republicans was to move the continuing resolution past the debt ceiling and then to sit down with Obama and decide whether he would be willing to trade some relaxation of the sequester for significant reforms of entitlements
.. Republicans could get significant long-term entitlement reform -- all on the spending side, Im assured by leadership -- for some relaxation of sequester. snip Something like that mightve worked out. There was also the possibility, and I was an advocate, of pushing for delay
. snip
EK: That sounds like the strategy that got us the shutdown, though.
GN: No, the leverage isnt the debt ceiling. Its not the CR. Its the sequester.
. The second thought was to have a conversation over the one-year delay. snip
But thats not what we did. Ted Cruz, from left field, said we have to defund Obamacare permanently in this CR. If they offered the Keystone pipeline and the privatization of Fannie and Freddie you couldnt take that. We only want this, and we only want it on Tuesday -- Wednesday is no good. The debt ceiling is no good. So that got locked in as a principle. And people went out on talk radio and said if youre not for this youre a coward, youre a RINO.
EK: And that got in the way of the larger strategy?
GN: Im cheerful because every Republicans is for repeal of Obamacare
So then the House said, breaking completely with Cruz because Cruz thinks if youre not defunding the whole thing its treason, that theres delay. Theres getting rid of medical device taxes. Theyve done a series of things to hold together Republicans and break with Cruz. But because we started with the Cruz approach this got to the shutdown.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/02/grover-norquist-ted-cruz-pushed-house-republicans-into-traffic-and-wandered-away/
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)For every finger you point, there are three pointing right back at you.
You and your bathtub got us into this. But typical: When things blow up in your face, you deny ownership and run away.
2naSalit
(86,617 posts)one thing he is betting on... that WE won't remember.
And of course, he's wrong again.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)They were dead and in the ground in 2008. Now they're back and are tearing things apart again.
1000words
(7,051 posts)Each side uses the other for cover. Best way to keep the proles in line is to have them fighting each other.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Obama played ball with them. Now they figure they can push him even further. Hopefully they are wrong. So far so "good".
2naSalit
(86,617 posts)some suggestions but they are probably not safe to post.
As a consolation I'll offer up this interactive tool so anyone who wants to can see how many pies he has his hand in...
http://www.muckety.com/Grover-G-Norquist/3963.muckety
Try not to puke.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Good chart. Republicans listen to the little weasel because he controls a lot of campaign money.
just another member of the cabal.
And you have to watch this to see just how this guy set the incredibly low bar for the juvenile attitudes from his "pledgies" that we are dealing with now...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-february-28-2012/grover-norquist-s-taxpayer-protection-pledge
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Norquist asks: "Whens the last time we passed a big government entitlement and every Republican opposed it and kept pointing out that its a mistake?"
Easy. Social Security and Medicare.
Here's from Harry Reid's wallet:
2naSalit
(86,617 posts)kentuck
(111,095 posts)Then they looked around and he was gone.
But it is so much easier to blame Ted Cruz than to take responsibility as a Party for being a bunch of stupid lemmings with suicide vests.