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Explain this to a Canadian (2 dollar bills) (Original Post) PM Martin Oct 2013 OP
We were drunk. He said it would be a good idea. Now I have regrets. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #1
Think of it as a Labbat 50 only twice the size Vinnie From Indy Oct 2013 #2
Nope Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #3
I'll see you and raise Nevernose Oct 2013 #9
Afraid of change? krispos42 Oct 2013 #70
Bazinga! pokerfan Oct 2013 #71
Two dollar bills and coins were invented as ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2013 #73
Two answers MFrohike Oct 2013 #4
Last time I was through Monticello (2005 or so) alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #15
That's sad MFrohike Oct 2013 #18
$2 bills are popular in casinos, too LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #20
People Of A Certain Age, Sir, View Them as Luck Bits The Magistrate Oct 2013 #5
I have one in my wallet Paulie Oct 2013 #21
LOL - that's what she brings my kids, too! cyberswede Oct 2013 #22
Funny thing is my daughter would much prefer the tooth fairy deliver apps to her iPod. Paulie Oct 2013 #24
Coins are a nuisance n/t SoCalDem Oct 2013 #65
I keep all the ones I come across, if they're 1976 series krispos42 Oct 2013 #72
Retailers hated the coin Warpy Oct 2013 #6
A red treasury seal or a blue one? roamer65 Oct 2013 #25
It's a silver dollar. Warpy Oct 2013 #29
Ah. I thought it was an old large size note (aka "horse blanket") roamer65 Oct 2013 #31
No, it's been worn nearly slick Warpy Oct 2013 #34
It's worth right around $20 because it's 90 pct silver. roamer65 Oct 2013 #35
Dollar coins were actually very popular, back in the days they would buy you a nice meal. dimbear Oct 2013 #7
In the western states and California very true. roamer65 Oct 2013 #19
2 dollar bills are so rare that some cashiers in retail establishments think they aren't real. PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #8
Don't even think about trying to pass one at Taco Bell pokerfan Oct 2013 #75
Its like your Loonies...only we don't try peeling them apart to find chocolate. Historic NY Oct 2013 #10
There was never a $2 bill slot in any cash register bhikkhu Oct 2013 #11
They are very available. Betsy Ross Oct 2013 #12
I haven't see a $2 bill since I was a teenager...I'm damn near 40 alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #13
I actually have three of them in my wallet right now. CanonRay Oct 2013 #51
Nah, we are really screwed up when it comes to coins.. SomethingFishy Oct 2013 #14
Some banks have $2 notes and some vending machines take them... roamer65 Oct 2013 #16
I have 20 of them in a box somewhere at my parents house. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #17
He's a bunch of stories done by NPR Planet Money Paulie Oct 2013 #23
I still think we need the Richard Nixon $3 bill...heheh. roamer65 Oct 2013 #26
I have one and only one. And it's the only one I've ever seen in my life. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #27
Congress should eliminate the $1 bill. former9thward Oct 2013 #28
Seriously? bunnies Oct 2013 #56
All banks have them. former9thward Oct 2013 #57
I honestly had no idea. bunnies Oct 2013 #66
They are worth $2.00 former9thward Oct 2013 #68
Why? Travis_0004 Oct 2013 #76
That's the same thing they said in Canada and England. former9thward Oct 2013 #77
The newer $1 coins were just too close to quarter size, as other posters DebJ Oct 2013 #30
We need to get rid of our pennies first! n/t DebJ Oct 2013 #32
Got my vote. roamer65 Oct 2013 #36
We recently did up here (to the considerable dismay of tourists) (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #43
Canadians are always the smarter group it seems. n/t DebJ Oct 2013 #46
We have our dumb moments. (See: the federal government) (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #47
Plus, if you lose the penny, KamaAina Oct 2013 #54
I do not have a clear answer for either. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #33
$2 bills are common KT2000 Oct 2013 #37
Looked and felt too much like a quarter. roamer65 Oct 2013 #38
Reading down to see if any western washingtonian ferry riders would comment. uppityperson Oct 2013 #42
You do know that Americans can't handle the trauma of changing grantcart Oct 2013 #39
The original $1 coin was so close in size SheilaT Oct 2013 #40
I get 10 to 20 - $1 coins every week from the bank. defacto7 Oct 2013 #41
the post office Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #53
Part of it was conservative fear mongering JHB Oct 2013 #44
2 dollar bills are rare. The one dollar coin was mistaken to be a quarter. B Calm Oct 2013 #45
My college wrestling team got meal money in $2 bills. Jenoch Oct 2013 #48
Cash register drawers Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #49
Never mind that, what are you doing with loons on your dollars? rug Oct 2013 #50
Actually the story behind the loon on the Canadian dollar is very interesting. roamer65 Oct 2013 #55
How interesting! I'm partial to the old one. rug Oct 2013 #58
If that is yours, hang onto it. roamer65 Oct 2013 #62
Oh that is why it's called a looney! treestar Oct 2013 #60
I use $2 bills every chance I get derby378 Oct 2013 #52
For a while, the parking lot machine at our courthouse treestar Oct 2013 #59
Thankfully dollar coins haven't gotten popular here. NYC Liberal Oct 2013 #61
I know some people that used those $ coins accidentally in vending machines Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #63
Our credit uniom will issue $2 notes upon request... Earth_First Oct 2013 #64
At race tracks. Minimum bet is $2. JVS Oct 2013 #67
Strip clubs often give out $2 bills in change Recursion Oct 2013 #69
My folks used to do the hot-air balloon circuit in the Northwest. cemaphonic Oct 2013 #74
I wish..I liked using "toonies" when we were in Canada. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #78
My wife and I cruise a lot so COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #80
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
3. Nope
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:50 PM
Oct 2013

they should retire the $1 banknote, it's the only way people will use the coin. (And make the $2 a coin as well. Works in Canada; works in the UK; the EU...Americans fear change, I guess.)

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. I'll see you and raise
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:56 PM
Oct 2013

I'd also pass a law saying that all taxes must be included in the price. That's what I liked best about Europe: the price is the price, and I'm not trying to calculate an extra 8.25 percent.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
73. Two dollar bills and coins were invented as
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:08 AM
Oct 2013

emergency gas or cigarette money you could usually find on the mantle or jewelry box on the dresser top if you were in a financial pinch. They replaced the coinage under sofa cushions we used to retrieve for the same purposes.

A side note, cashiers always look at you weird when you use and they know it's because you're otherwise broke and need a coke, a cig, or a gallon of gas (back then).

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
4. Two answers
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:53 PM
Oct 2013

Two dollar bills are popular at strip clubs and Monticello. As for the coin, I don't really know. I don't much care for them, but I really have no specific reason for it. Somehow, I suspect that's the reason.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. Last time I was through Monticello (2005 or so)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:10 PM
Oct 2013

It didn't seem like Monticello was popular in Monticello any more. Cheap flights to Florida really killed that whole 17 corridor. It was a depressing spectacle to behold.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
18. That's sad
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:23 PM
Oct 2013

I only went once, around 91, but it was awesome. It's a snapshot of almost all of American history in one location.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
20. $2 bills are popular in casinos, too
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:26 PM
Oct 2013

I had a lot of customers who carried the deuces to use for tips, because the machines wouldn't take them.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
5. People Of A Certain Age, Sir, View Them as Luck Bits
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:54 PM
Oct 2013

I have not come across one in many years, and do not think I have spent one within the last thirty years.

Long ago they were somewhat more common, back when you still came upon fifty cent pieces frequently, and silver dollars often enough it was simply a pleasant surprise, but not astonishing.

The story is, anyway, that they were often used in gambling, as a two dollar bet was the threshold at horse tracks.

I do not really know why none of the recent dollar coins caught on. It would make a lot of sense to have a dollar coin and a two dollar bill, in my view.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
24. Funny thing is my daughter would much prefer the tooth fairy deliver apps to her iPod.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:38 PM
Oct 2013

Kids these days.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
72. I keep all the ones I come across, if they're 1976 series
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:02 AM
Oct 2013

Bicentennial quarters as well; they're my birth year.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
6. Retailers hated the coin
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:54 PM
Oct 2013

because there weren't enough slots in a cash register for both dollar bills and dollar coins. They were mostly circulated and in daily use in Las Vegas and Atlantic City and in casinos elsewhere.

As for customers, they've rejected most attempts at a dollar coin because they're too small, too close to the size of a quarter, and the distinctive rim on the Susan B Anthony dollar wasn't enough to save it from being mistaken for a quarter, something that made people mad.

I suppose they think a woman needs to be somewhere on our currency since they've evicted Miss Liberty in favor of male politicians on the rest. However, anything with a female face is being made too small to be practical.

ETA: I have the first dollar my dad earned. The date on it is 1923, which you can barely read since he kept that dollar in his wallet until he died at the age of 89.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
31. Ah. I thought it was an old large size note (aka "horse blanket")
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:14 AM
Oct 2013

Still worth well more than a dollar though.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
34. No, it's been worn nearly slick
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:16 AM
Oct 2013

It's a keepsake. The condition is far too poor to make it worth more than a buck.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
35. It's worth right around $20 because it's 90 pct silver.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:24 AM
Oct 2013

But as a keepsake of your dad it's priceless.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
7. Dollar coins were actually very popular, back in the days they would buy you a nice meal.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:55 PM
Oct 2013

Actually, a typical 1921 dollar coin will still buy you a nice meal.



roamer65

(36,745 posts)
19. In the western states and California very true.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:26 PM
Oct 2013

In the 1800's and into the early 1900's it was rare to see banknotes out there from what I have read. Using paper money out there usually labelled you as an Easterner and quite often it was not accepted at par with gold and silver coin.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
8. 2 dollar bills are so rare that some cashiers in retail establishments think they aren't real.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 10:55 PM
Oct 2013

I've never gotten one in change.

bhikkhu

(10,716 posts)
11. There was never a $2 bill slot in any cash register
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:00 PM
Oct 2013

So you could spend them, but you'd never get any back, and the stores just sent them to the bank, which sent them back to the treasury as few people ever asked for them.

I have a couple I got as Christmas presents years ago, but haven't seen one in years. Probably the same with $1 coins. Maybe if they eventually phase out the penny that will free up a register slot (though I don't like to carry loose change myself anyway).

Betsy Ross

(3,147 posts)
12. They are very available.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:07 PM
Oct 2013

My mother has gotten me in the habit of picking them up at the bank to use as special tips. There is always someone in the neighborhood that has never seen one.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. I haven't see a $2 bill since I was a teenager...I'm damn near 40
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:08 PM
Oct 2013

We're very $1/$5/10/20 oriented, I think. Why would one need a $2 bill?

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
51. I actually have three of them in my wallet right now.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:53 PM
Oct 2013

I like them...it throws stupid young cashiers into consternation.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
14. Nah, we are really screwed up when it comes to coins..
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:09 PM
Oct 2013

The $2 bill was an epic failure, and so were the two times they tried to roll out dollar coins. However both times they made dollar coins they made them about the same size and weight of a quarter which people rightly didn't like.

I spend a lot of time in Canada and I do find the $2 and $1 coins to be easier to deal with. My friends use the twoies as golf ball markers

We'll catch up to you eventually.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. Some banks have $2 notes and some vending machines take them...
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:11 PM
Oct 2013

but they are not common. Only slightly more common than the Canadian 50 cent piece...lol.

If we get rid of the $1 note, then the $1 coins and $2 note would become widespread...much like when you switched to the loonie in 1987.

IMO, your twonie is a tad bit too big. I like Australia's 2 dollar coin more. About the size of a US dime but three times as thick and brass colored. It really was nice to use and carry.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
26. I still think we need the Richard Nixon $3 bill...heheh.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:47 PM
Oct 2013

If you get one, you could then truly say you have been "Dicked".

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
28. Congress should eliminate the $1 bill.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:59 PM
Oct 2013

Replace it with the dollar coins. I only use $2 bills. My bank gives me hundreds at a time. Normally they are in numerical order. They have never been circulated. I love them.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
57. All banks have them.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:27 PM
Oct 2013

At least large ones. The Treasury Department continues to circulate them and they send them to the banks whether they want them or not.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
66. I honestly had no idea.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:00 PM
Oct 2013

Are they worth more now? I guess I assumed they would be which is why Im surprised banks are still distributing them.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
68. They are worth $2.00
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:36 PM
Oct 2013

And always will be. There are hundreds of millions of them out there if of not billions.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
76. Why?
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:35 PM
Oct 2013

The reason the 1.00 coin hasn't caught on is because people don't like them. Why force a change that people don't want? Sure, it would save a tiny bit of money for the government, but if savings is the goal, I'm sure there are other ways to eliminate waste. I prefer the 1.00 bill, and I don't want to switch to coins.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
77. That's the same thing they said in Canada and England.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

Until they liked it. People never like change until they do like it. If we switched within a year people would be saying 'why didn't we do this years ago?'. Because of inflation a dollar bill is not good for much. Switch to the $2 and eliminate pennies and nickles.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
30. The newer $1 coins were just too close to quarter size, as other posters
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:14 AM
Oct 2013

said. I dropped a few of them myself into vending machines, thinking they were quarters,
with bad results. Vending machines either took them for quarters, or didn't take them at
all, but I think mostly used them like quarters.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
33. I do not have a clear answer for either.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:16 AM
Oct 2013

I do agree that we need to replace the 1 dollar bill with a coin(lifespan/cost).

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
37. $2 bills are common
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:26 AM
Oct 2013

if you use the ferry system in Washington state. I always get them in change. When I use them in stores, the clerks are usually surprised to see it.

For some reason the dollar coin was ridiculed. I always thought it had to do with Susan B. Anthony being the figure on the coin - as in resentment of women's rights.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
38. Looked and felt too much like a quarter.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:31 AM
Oct 2013

Also, bringing out a smaller dollar coin in 1979, a year of high inflation did not help. It reminded people how little the dollar was worth, along with the lines at the gas stations. Most people did not even know who was on the coin.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
42. Reading down to see if any western washingtonian ferry riders would comment.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 03:19 AM
Oct 2013

I had quite a collection a while back, gratis ferry.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. You do know that Americans can't handle the trauma of changing
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:33 AM
Oct 2013

to metric and they all have 10 fingers.

Need I say more?

$2 bills were used almost exclusively at horse racing tracks between1950 and 1980 as they took $ 2 bets.

Not much use elsewhere.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
40. The original $1 coin was so close in size
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:39 AM
Oct 2013

and feel to a quarter that people constantly treated them like quarters. Very unpopular.

Some years back I decided to stock my cash drawer with $2 bills, and in the six months or so I did it, once and only once did someone refuse one. Most people, as I counted back their change, were quite bemused and seemed rather pleased to get them.

I don't recall there being a problem with stocking my drawer that way. Ones, twos, fives, tens, and twenties. That's five slots. If I got a larger bill, say a fifty or a hundred, it went to the bottom of the twenties pile.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
41. I get 10 to 20 - $1 coins every week from the bank.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 02:50 AM
Oct 2013

I use them for everything. They work great for grocery checkout when you are self checking, they are great for parking, tips, or anything else. I just don't see the problem. I see them as a major advantage over scuffing through your wallet digging through nasty one dollar bills; they're disgusting.

Give them a try. Get a bunch at your bank and see if they don't grow on you after a week or two. I really have come to hate the $1 notes. Burn'em.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
44. Part of it was conservative fear mongering
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:32 AM
Oct 2013

There was a move during the Carter administration to discontinue dollar bills and go with $2 bills and dollar coins (the Susan B. Anthony dollar).

The cash drawer problem was played up as "big government bureaucrats imposing still more costs on the beleaguered businessman!"

The flag-wrappers railed at how liberals were replacing George Washington, father of our country, with a feminist!

It simply wasn't worth the political hay that was made over it.

Same thing happened to a move to shift to the metric system at around the same time.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
49. Cash register drawers
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:47 PM
Oct 2013

Among other reasons, there just isn't space for two dollar bills in the drawers. The one dollar coin was too similar in size to a quarter. Why would we need both paper and coin $1.00 money anyways?

I didn't hate either one but neither was very helpful. Just FYI. I think the penny should be eliminated since it is nearly worthless now. Anything and everything can be rounded to the nearest five cents and all will be fine.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
55. Actually the story behind the loon on the Canadian dollar is very interesting.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:21 PM
Oct 2013

The design used on the former (and larger) dollar coin was the "Voyageur" design. A First Nations male and a European male in a canoe, with an island in the background. A new, smaller version was crafted and the dies were made. The Royal Canadian Mint then attempted to send the dies by unsecured courier from Ottawa to the branch mint in Winnipeg. Big mistake. The dies disappeared in shipment. Now worried about counterfeiting, they enlisted an alternate design submitted years earlier by Canadian artist Robert-Ralph Carmichael...the Loon design. That is why the Loon is on the Canadian dollar.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
62. If that is yours, hang onto it.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:46 PM
Oct 2013

It won't be worth a huge premium, but Canada is actively removing all pure nickel coins from circulation. They were made from 1968-2001, 2001 being just a small mintage of the 25c in pure nickel. There after is the nickel-plated steel junk. Blah.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
52. I use $2 bills every chance I get
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:55 PM
Oct 2013

Sometimes I'll ask the credit union teller how many $2 bills she's sitting on and can I please have them as part of the withdrawal from my account.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
59. For a while, the parking lot machine at our courthouse
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:43 PM
Oct 2013

would give change in dollar coins. I ended up saving them to use whenever I went there. So they went in and out of there. But they stopped doing it.

Everywhere I traveled recently has done away with the penny and the paper note for one of the currency. Seems like a good idea to me. Maybe we are just really attached to the $1 bill with George Washington on it.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
61. Thankfully dollar coins haven't gotten popular here.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:44 PM
Oct 2013

I hate them. Too heavy, too much change to carry around. It gets old fast. I've lived in and been to Canada plenty and that's the one thing I've always disliked.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
63. I know some people that used those $ coins accidentally in vending machines
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:49 PM
Oct 2013

and the vending machine took it. That could be one reason. Also, we hate change. I couldn't believe how annoying it was to have 1 pound and 2 pound coins in my pocket when I was in London a couple of weeks ago.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
64. Our credit uniom will issue $2 notes upon request...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 07:10 PM
Oct 2013

Ill grab $20 worth a few times a year.

Additionally, I don't mind the $1 coin...

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
74. My folks used to do the hot-air balloon circuit in the Northwest.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:52 AM
Oct 2013

Most ballooning events took place to coincide with the fairs that many towns have during the summer. These usually work with the local businesses sponsoring balloon crews in order to pay for their expenses, while the businesses get some advertising, civic pride, and a hot-air-balloon ride out of the deal.

One town (Driggs, ID) was on the fence about adding a ballooning event to their fair, until they hit on the idea of having every single sponsor pay the balloonists in $2 bills, so they could see how much of their money was staying in the community (Virtually all of it - Travel/Accommodations, and the actual costs of putting the balloons up costs much more than the sponsorship. It just defrays the cost of the hobby a bit). The whole town was awash in $2 for the weekend, and the balloonists were invited back the next year. (and a quick look at Google shows that it is still a yearly event).

I always thought that was a clever way to take advantage of the relative rarity of $2 bills.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
79. My wife and I cruise a lot so
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 01:58 PM
Oct 2013

I get $2 bills to give for miscellaneous tips on board (room service, etc.). They come in handy for that. You can get them at almost any bank, although they may not have more than 30 or so on hand.

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