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applegrove

(118,659 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:01 PM Oct 2013

Shutdown Backfires: New Poll Shows Democrats Opening Big Midterm Lead 43-34

Shutdown Backfires: New Poll Shows Democrats Opening Big Midterm Lead 43-34

by Sarah Jones at Politicus USA

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/01/2014-warning-poll-democrats-win-republicans-43-34.html

"SNIP............................

A new Quinnipiac poll shows voters picking a generic Democrat over a generic Republican 43% to 34%, which they point out is the widest Democratic margin measured so far.

Asked “If the election for the U.S. House of Representatives were being held today, would you vote for the Republican candidate, or for the Democratic candidate in your district?”

The last time Republicans were almost this low was in April, but they managed to damage the Democratic brand with the summer of fake scandals.

Speaker John Boehner tried to warn House Republicans to no avail, and he continues to try to impose reality upon the newbie Tea nihilists today, warning them that they could lose their majority in 2014 as a result of shutting down the government.



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Shutdown Backfires: New Poll Shows Democrats Opening Big Midterm Lead 43-34 (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2013 OP
K&R! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #1
Benghazi! Benghazi! lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #2
I hope this will continue! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #3
Meaningless poll jberryhill Oct 2013 #4
It being the widest margin means something and I don't believe it's finished yet, the momentum is Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #7
Yeah, more eastern liberal Republicans are upset with the GOP jberryhill Oct 2013 #28
I agree that measurements in districts would be an improvement but any dynamic Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #33
Right, unfortunately. elleng Oct 2013 #8
I don't know. blue neen Oct 2013 #12
The shutdown screwed a lot of the GOP constituents Iliyah Oct 2013 #14
That has seemed to be the thought all last week. Left Coast2020 Oct 2013 #24
"We can't sit on our hands." jberryhill Oct 2013 #29
Yup. progressoid Oct 2013 #13
Okay, now shhhhhhh. ffr Oct 2013 #5
I often want to censor myself here just for that reason. I don't want to inadvertenly be applegrove Oct 2013 #6
Could this shutdown make Christie lose? johnd83 Oct 2013 #9
It would scare the pants off them if Wendy Davis is Governor of Texas. Left Coast2020 Oct 2013 #23
Excellent gopiscrap Oct 2013 #10
Elections a year away and hell to pay before then. Sorry, not feeling very upbeat tonight. freshwest Oct 2013 #11
I just wish Americans had better memories than guppies. Kablooie Oct 2013 #15
The DEMS have 13 months to blow it, and if history is any indication... blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #16
That's an eternity in politics, especially today madville Oct 2013 #27
1996 all over again. marble falls Oct 2013 #17
We are going to bury them at Election time.... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #18
Gee maybe americans are finally seeing the threat to democracy, freedom and workinclasszero Oct 2013 #19
43% to 34% overall doesn't mean much. Gerrymandering! thesquanderer Oct 2013 #20
But today there is cause for optimism! thesquanderer Oct 2013 #34
This should be an OP! nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #35
Two bad we don't have mid midterms. They can't come soon enough! lonestarnot Oct 2013 #21
They bought it,they own it. easychoice Oct 2013 #22
Kickin' it! Cha Oct 2013 #25
You know how a bratty kid throwing a tantrum suddenly realizes that it's to no avail... Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #26
If this holds up Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #30
They need to be crushed into pea gravel! nt City Lights Oct 2013 #31
If the freaks keep the gov. shut down another week, we will double that lead! MoonRiver Oct 2013 #32

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
2. Benghazi! Benghazi!
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:05 PM
Oct 2013



They will be running through the streets shouting Benghazi because that's all they have left.

Sad. Very sad.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. Meaningless poll
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:06 PM
Oct 2013

We already know that more Americans voted Democratic to elect the current house with its Republican majority.

There is no nationwide race between "generic" Democrats and Republicans.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
7. It being the widest margin means something and I don't believe it's finished yet, the momentum is
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:14 PM
Oct 2013

building up, at some point the curtain will be pulled back too far and the Republicans won't be able to turn it around in time using B.S. scandals.



A new Quinnipiac poll shows voters picking a generic Democrat over a generic Republican 43% to 34%, which they point out is the widest Democratic margin measured so far.



 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. Yeah, more eastern liberal Republicans are upset with the GOP
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:56 AM
Oct 2013

That widens the margin, and doesn't do a god-damned thing in Teamanderville.

It would be great if someone would do some measurements in districts that actually matter, instead of a meaningless national poll.

It has long been true that everyone hates Congress, and loves their representative. That hasn't changed for decades.

Uncle Joe

(58,362 posts)
33. I agree that measurements in districts would be an improvement but any dynamic
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:40 AM
Oct 2013

that serves to depress Republican voter turnout is a good thing.

Furthermore "Teamanderville" is not immune to strengthening or weakening, being upset with the Republican Congress to the widest margin ever implies that perhaps "Teamanderville" have moderated or are moderating in their views in regards to the shutdown as well, particulary as the consequences become more apparent.

blue neen

(12,321 posts)
12. I don't know.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:22 PM
Oct 2013

Even in some extremely gerrymandered districts, with tons of money poured in by the Koch Partiers, the Republicans didn't win by much.

I also think this poll is significant because Democrats will be highly motivated to vote, especially in states where there are idiots like Tom Corbett in the Governor's seat. Hell, he's so unpopular in Pennsylvania right now that the Republicans don't even want him.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
24. That has seemed to be the thought all last week.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 02:16 AM
Oct 2013

But as I've said here before, we have to show up next year. We can't sit on our hands. You just have to tell yourself, I'm going to help people vote. If you help 10-20 or 50 people vote, then they might help another 20-50 people vote. And you can't forget women are pissed with states passing restrictive abortion laws. So the potential to have a big turnout is there. We just have to be the catalyst to make sure it happens.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. "We can't sit on our hands."
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:59 AM
Oct 2013

I live in Delaware. Both of our senators and our sole congressperson are D, as is our governor and our state legislature.

I'm supposed to help people push the D button with more gusto?

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
13. Yup.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:54 PM
Oct 2013

There are districts in the US where this may actually help GOPers. There is a lot of crazy out there.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
6. I often want to censor myself here just for that reason. I don't want to inadvertenly be
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:14 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:03 AM - Edit history (1)

helping the GOP with their plan to break the back of the middle class.

johnd83

(593 posts)
9. Could this shutdown make Christie lose?
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:18 PM
Oct 2013

That would be one hell of an outcome that would scare the pants off all of them. Is there any way to tie it to him personally?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Elections a year away and hell to pay before then. Sorry, not feeling very upbeat tonight.
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 11:21 PM
Oct 2013

But Politicususa is manned by some sharp people...

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
15. I just wish Americans had better memories than guppies.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:21 AM
Oct 2013

Let's hope that this effect remains but polls are notoriously fickle.

madville

(7,410 posts)
27. That's an eternity in politics, especially today
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 06:13 AM
Oct 2013

We live in a constant stream of new information, 13 months is an eternity.

The teabaggers and many independents will get fired up about immigration reform between then and now. Add another weak scandal or two. Insert some other big event like something in Syria or Israel bombing someone. This will be a distant memory unfortunately, especially if they end it this weekend (which I expect) and no real permanent damage materializes, most people will move on and simply not care about this.

The furloughed federal employees will probably get back pay for the days the didn't work, they'll probably be rooting for another free vacation the next go round j/k (I'm furloughed myself this week, have gotten tons of stuff done around the house).

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
18. We are going to bury them at Election time....
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:48 AM
Oct 2013

You have not heard the last from Angry Democrats and Independents.....

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. Gee maybe americans are finally seeing the threat to democracy, freedom and
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:06 AM
Oct 2013

their jobs from the Teahadist/republican party?!

Its about damn time!

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
20. 43% to 34% overall doesn't mean much. Gerrymandering!
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:08 AM
Oct 2013

You have to look at the races district by district to see whether those numbers would be at all indicative of an actual election.

easychoice

(1,043 posts)
22. They bought it,they own it.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:55 AM
Oct 2013

They are going to reap the fruit of their treachery,with any luck their bounty will smother them.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
26. You know how a bratty kid throwing a tantrum suddenly realizes that it's to no avail...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 04:50 AM
Oct 2013

...and it hurts their feelings and they really start to cry and wail?

Oh, the hurt fee fees we are going to have to watch here in a week or two from the GOP! This was supposed to work!

At the risk of sounding like an ad, my phone company is Credo, and they have a petition going - for every person who signs it, they are going to send John Boehner a pacifier - up to 100,000. I couldn't even believe it when I saw the page. But I signed up! If you want to join in on the fun, you can probably find it by searching.

The sad thing is, though, I'm afraid it's going to get worse before it gets better. That looming debt ceiling worries me. But there is no better time to keep being the adults in the room. The voters will see.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
32. If the freaks keep the gov. shut down another week, we will double that lead!
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:11 AM
Oct 2013

There is always a silver lining out there!

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