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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:42 AM Oct 2013

Report: Closed-Door GOP Meeting With Cruz Turned Into 'Lynch Mob'

Report: Closed-Door GOP Meeting With Cruz Turned Into 'Lynch Mob'

More details are emerging about Wednesday's closed-door meeting where Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) evidently received an earful from his Republican colleagues, with one senator describing what transpired as a "lynch mob."

A report published Friday by The New York Times shed more light on the private lunch, indicating that Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), Dan Coats (R-IN) and Ron Johnson (R-WI) blasted Cruz for leading the charge to block funding for the Affordable Care Act, a quixotic effort that led to the government shutdown.

According to the Times report, Ayotte demanded that Cruz renounce attacks directed at Republicans by an unnamed "conservative group." Politico reported earlier this week it was attacks levied by the Senate Conservatives Fund, the organization founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC), that rankled Cruz's GOP colleagues.

According to the Times, Cruz did not disavow the attacks nor did he offer a strategy for the defunding effort, prompting Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to join the criticism of the freshman senator.

More, plus links:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-closed-door-gop-meeting-with-cruz-turned-into-lynch-mob

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Report: Closed-Door GOP Meeting With Cruz Turned Into 'Lynch Mob' (Original Post) kpete Oct 2013 OP
That's right, blame the crazy guy for making over two hundred idiots..... Walk away Oct 2013 #1
Republicans can't govern THEMSELVES, let alone a nation. Allowed a freshman to lead themselves. Nuts Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #41
BUt they didn't lynch him! So it was ineffective. SharonAnn Oct 2013 #62
Do you ever get the idea that Republicans don't actually know what a lynch mob is? el_bryanto Oct 2013 #2
We could only hope, done in by his compadres that would be awesome Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #3
Er, no. lapislzi Oct 2013 #4
Ok so letting the GOP murder 45,000 Americans is ok? Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #6
Nice straw man. lapislzi Oct 2013 #9
Cool! Likewise Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #10
I am thinking too fucking soon. FreedRadical Oct 2013 #46
Not exactly a lynching. A little tarring and feathering would be nice though. bklyncowgirl Oct 2013 #5
That would be nice too Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #7
you're absolutely right. pukes also don't know what BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #19
I agree there's no real literal comparison to real lyching IrishAyes Oct 2013 #25
It's just their way of over-dramatizing their own "suffering" ... surrealAmerican Oct 2013 #29
Actually, they can't get that rope and tree out of their minds with Obama in office. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #53
It's more like they did this.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #37
Exactly! RavensChick Oct 2013 #52
They liberalmike27 Oct 2013 #43
The Republican leadership ALLOWED Cruz to happen. MADem Oct 2013 #58
I was thinking that too! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #44
Haha! I'm loving this! City Lights Oct 2013 #8
It's headed for an iceberg. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #26
I love the sound of republican infighting in the morning. GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #11
May be, but these moderate Republicans are not ready to solve the problem Mass Oct 2013 #12
If it passes the House, can the Senate R's still derail it? alfredo Oct 2013 #14
No, not if passed in identical terms. It has already passed the Senate, so it would go to Obama Mass Oct 2013 #15
I don't have much faith that the house can pass a clean CR. alfredo Oct 2013 #16
I agree, but we have to stop talking about moderate Republicans in this case. Mass Oct 2013 #17
A song just came to mind alfredo Oct 2013 #28
Ron Johnson is a slender reed blowing in the wind. He was with Cruz a month ago ... Scuba Oct 2013 #13
Is that Ron Johnson, Audio Consultant we're talking about? IveWornAHundredPants Oct 2013 #30
No, it's ("See what a smart businessman I am. I married the boss's daughter.") Sunspot Johnson,R-Wi. Scuba Oct 2013 #33
nice FT@RH reference nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #49
cruz wears stupidity as a badge of honor. nt Javaman Oct 2013 #18
Whee! And this party's going to have to nominate someone bluedeathray Oct 2013 #20
Let us know if they need some rope grantcart Oct 2013 #21
This is what comes from Obama standing his ground and not giving in one inch. Kablooie Oct 2013 #22
Then get the house gopers on board Iliyah Oct 2013 #23
He's their Frankenstein, they ought to be proud of what they created. Myrina Oct 2013 #24
They're not a thoughtful group. They're all fascist terrorists, every last one. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #27
One hopes they won't have the opportunity in the future. caseymoz Oct 2013 #34
why in the fuck did they follow him then? rurallib Oct 2013 #31
Lynch mob? Why not call it "A holocaust?" caseymoz Oct 2013 #32
He should be called out for that horrible comparison. Boomerproud Oct 2013 #35
A rich white man getting yelled at is exactly like a lynching. Orsino Oct 2013 #38
But according to Tweety Obama "met his match" with Ted Cruz. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #36
Ted Cruz is my hero... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #39
As I said on another thread, Cruz broke the Reagan commandment Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #40
Oh that poor horse. He has a really ugly growth on his butt. Marie Marie Oct 2013 #42
WOW!!! JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #61
They chose to follow him. Where is the 'Personal Responsibility' Party now? tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #45
Right. All those lemmings who drank cocktails while they followed him over the cliff Squinch Oct 2013 #60
And Gawker *just* had an article on the overuse of "lynch mob"... nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #47
The Republicans are Cornered bucolic_frolic Oct 2013 #48
Of course Cruz had no plan. He probably... Beartracks Oct 2013 #50
Ted Cruz has been pissing everybody in his own party off since January Warpy Oct 2013 #51
Neither McConnell nor Boehner is a leader. nyquil_man Oct 2013 #54
And, to think, there was a time when McConnell *was that guy. They've gone so far off the rails, silvershadow Oct 2013 #55
what is the plan ted? lead us out of this mess u made. Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #56
Don't anyone here kid yourself customerserviceguy Oct 2013 #57
Well someone has to be the Speaker of the House, and lead the GOP...... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #59

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
1. That's right, blame the crazy guy for making over two hundred idiots.....
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:54 AM
Oct 2013

jump off the cliff. I don't think these fools will ever get away with a stunt like this again.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. Do you ever get the idea that Republicans don't actually know what a lynch mob is?
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:55 AM
Oct 2013


I'm probably way off base I know - but did they really do something comparable to this to Cruz?

Bryant

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
4. Er, no.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:27 AM
Oct 2013

I don't find joking references to lynching funny. Lynching is not funny. It never was and never will be. I understand that it was supposed to be a metaphor, but I am rather horrified by it, and horrified that a DUer would find this appropriate to say.

**pre-emptive middle finger: don't tell me I have no sense of humor.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
6. Ok so letting the GOP murder 45,000 Americans is ok?
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:35 AM
Oct 2013

45,000 Americans die every year through lack of affordable healthcare. Further, destroying the world's economy, taking 1 billion a week out of our own, 1 million people in furlough status (I'm one of them) and you hand-wring about about my comment.

Gotcha, I see where your priorities are.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
9. Nice straw man.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:41 AM
Oct 2013

How about addressing my actual comment? Oh, wait...that would require you to climb down off your high horse and stop trying to put words into my mouth.

Welcome to my ignore list.

FreedRadical

(518 posts)
46. I am thinking too fucking soon.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 04:27 PM
Oct 2013

I have yet to see a good reason why this shit is a part of our American history. It is certainly not something I feel in any way comfortable with watching withe Americans fucking joke about. And if you try to explain it away or in any way justify, I will scream "TOO FUCKING SOON". It is not OK, and all is not rosy. In my humbly opinion it is inappropriate.

K

Just say-en'

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. you're absolutely right. pukes also don't know what
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:05 AM
Oct 2013

The Holocaust was. Nor do they understand rape and violence against women, poverty, and a long list of other realities that their self-absorbed world view helps create.

They're bloviating drama queens and they're perfectly comfortable with the most despicable hyperbole.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
25. I agree there's no real literal comparison to real lyching
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:43 AM
Oct 2013

But figuratively speaking, I'd like to see that vile fascist UNDER the jail.

Your sensitivities - which we'd all do well to share - are understandable; I for one don't think you went the least bit overboard. Kudos for your thoughts.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
29. It's just their way of over-dramatizing their own "suffering" ...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:56 AM
Oct 2013

... while simultaneously minimizing the suffering of those they despise.

It's more than just insensitive and ignorant.

RavensChick

(3,123 posts)
52. Exactly!
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:10 PM
Oct 2013

That's better than lynching but pain without actually dying is a better effect.

I hope they gave that nutjob an earful and then some!

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
43. They
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

Just aren't used to having a lynch mob directed at them. They are usually the lynchers.

I'm getting tired of this off-loading of blame, onto Cruz, or the Billionaire Tea Party. They vote together, completely together. And Boehner completely supports them, by not taking a vote on the CR about funding the things they've already bought, our government.

So they're all the same--pretending to lynch the guy who led the "coup" is just more media BS. They're all the billionaires party.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. The Republican leadership ALLOWED Cruz to happen.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 04:19 AM
Oct 2013

The way to control a freshman is to threaten him, early and often, with dire consequences -- to include no RNC/GOP Congressional dough for his reelection efforts, and a primary opponent--if he doesn't play ball. Rolling over and saying "Oh well" and letting that nitwit get grandiose ideas in his big empty head is their own damned fault!

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
8. Haha! I'm loving this!
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 09:40 AM
Oct 2013

The GOPee never thinks anything through and now it's coming back to bite them in their asses! And watching their blame game is oh so much fun! Too bad there was no open mic in that room!

They all boarded the Carnival Cruz (thanks to Historic NY for this fitting name!) without realizing where the Cruz was headed! HA!

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
11. I love the sound of republican infighting in the morning.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:16 AM
Oct 2013

I hope the mutual self-destruction comes fast and hard.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
12. May be, but these moderate Republicans are not ready to solve the problem
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:32 AM
Oct 2013

It would now be solved if House Republicans had joined the Democrats in the several procedural votes that took place to bring the Senate bill on the floor.

So, yes, the infighting may seem funny, but people are suffering. I would settle for some common sense solutions and guts from the non Tea Party Republicans.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
15. No, not if passed in identical terms. It has already passed the Senate, so it would go to Obama
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:47 AM
Oct 2013

But there is clearly no will from the GOP moderates to pressure their leadership.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
17. I agree, but we have to stop talking about moderate Republicans in this case.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:50 AM
Oct 2013

They are all enabling the Tea Party. They may be leaking infighting to the media, but they are part of the problem, not the solution.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
13. Ron Johnson is a slender reed blowing in the wind. He was with Cruz a month ago ...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 10:41 AM
Oct 2013

... if he's blasting Cruz now that means the majority of the Republicans are too.

bluedeathray

(511 posts)
20. Whee! And this party's going to have to nominate someone
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:10 AM
Oct 2013

For President in less than 3 years. If the economy, ecology, and energy hold out.

The "clown car on fire" act rolls on...

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
22. This is what comes from Obama standing his ground and not giving in one inch.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:15 AM
Oct 2013

That's the way to be a leader.
Keep it up Mr. president, please, keep it up.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
23. Then get the house gopers on board
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:21 AM
Oct 2013

and pass the clean cr. All this brickering and America is still in the same place.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
24. He's their Frankenstein, they ought to be proud of what they created.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:35 AM
Oct 2013

Or, perhaps, were they a thoughtful group, this might give them pause before they stir the waters of the crazy pool in the future.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
27. They're not a thoughtful group. They're all fascist terrorists, every last one.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:48 AM
Oct 2013

If anyone seems to be drawing back a little now, it's only to escape the fire, not from a change of heart. How can you change something you don't have?

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
34. One hopes they won't have the opportunity in the future.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:52 PM
Oct 2013

One thing that might go right in this ordeal is that the shutdown is going to be a learning experience for their constituents. That's my hope. They apparently need some real-life education about why government is essential, and why it can't be underfunded. Something they've been misled on, some since 1964.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
31. why in the fuck did they follow him then?
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:28 PM
Oct 2013

always they blame someone else for even their own decisions.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
32. Lynch mob? Why not call it "A holocaust?"
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:34 PM
Oct 2013

I presume Cruz walked out of his lynching still very much alive and in one piece. Unlike, say, a real lynching.

Do these Repubs had any idea what they're talking about?

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
35. He should be called out for that horrible comparison.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:05 PM
Oct 2013

The entire world (including the insane places-of which there are many) must be looking at us and saying "America has finally lost it."

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
39. Ted Cruz is my hero...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:49 PM
Oct 2013

He's causing more headaches for the Repukes than I think any concerted effort by the Dems could.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
40. As I said on another thread, Cruz broke the Reagan commandment
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 01:51 PM
Oct 2013

Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
45. They chose to follow him. Where is the 'Personal Responsibility' Party now?
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 03:54 PM
Oct 2013

Oh yea, always blaming others for their problems. That's about right.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
60. Right. All those lemmings who drank cocktails while they followed him over the cliff
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:23 AM
Oct 2013

now are going to blame him?

Snort.

bucolic_frolic

(43,162 posts)
48. The Republicans are Cornered
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

This could be dangerous political times

They will turn on each other like rats in an overcrowded cage

They can't escape so you also wonder what other fixes they might try to
punch their way out of this mess

This shutdown is like the Clinton Impeachment. They think
they're blaming Obama, but just like Romney losing the election
I don't think they understand anything outside their own political
glass bubble

GWB was cornered in 2000, so a Supreme Court injunction
fixed things

Debt ceiling, spending, sequester, Detroit bankruptcy ...

I don't know where I'm headed with these thoughts just freethinking

Anyone see any war clouds on the horizion?

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
50. Of course Cruz had no plan. He probably...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:05 PM
Oct 2013

... just expected the Dems to cave -- and that was his "plan."

================================

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
51. Ted Cruz has been pissing everybody in his own party off since January
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:09 PM
Oct 2013

when he took office. He's abrasive and arrogant and unwilling to listen to anyone else.

The sooner the Republicans get enough on him to get him out of office, the better.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
54. Neither McConnell nor Boehner is a leader.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:34 PM
Oct 2013

They're followers. Loyal party hacks who've hung around long enough and kissed enough ass to rise to the top. They blindly follow the will of whoever they perceive to be in the majority of their party at any given moment. This article is just further proof of that.

Republicans can blame Cruz all they like but, until their party has leaders who put the country first, they will continue to have these problems.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
55. And, to think, there was a time when McConnell *was that guy. They've gone so far off the rails,
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 08:56 PM
Oct 2013

McConnell is starting to play the role of moderate.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
57. Don't anyone here kid yourself
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 03:32 AM
Oct 2013

He wears this like a badge of honor. In his world, being criticized by moderate Republican'ts means that he's different from them.

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