Conservative at work: Muslims don't have to comply with Obamacare

[AllyCat]

She is utterly convinced. States she read this "in the bill". I can't find reference to it anywhere except RW stuff. Anyone else know about something more credible? Is it just racism floating this or is there some other reason?

[el_bryanto]

1. I feel fairly safe in saying that's garden variety bigotry

But on things like that ask her to show it to you in the bill; tell her that doesn't pass the smell test and ask her to show it in the bill. In most case when you ask for a direct citation they will suddenly become very busy and not have time to do it.

Bryant

[Shrike47]

2. It's not true. Refer her to Snopes.

[Joel thakkar]

3. Don't know about muslims

but amish are exempted from obamacare

[StrictlyRockers]

4. Wait wut?

Read this:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/muslims_exempt_health_insurance_mandate.htm

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Analysis: These forwarded messages contain an astounding array of inaccuracies and exaggerations, beginning with the main proposition:

Are Muslims "specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured," as claimed in the message?

The answer is no. This is a fictitious claim. There is no provision specifically exempting Muslims or any other religious group from mandated health insurance in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010.

Nor do the words "Muslim," "Islam," or "Dhimmitude" appear anywhere in any version of the legislation.

Is anybody exempted from the insurance mandate by reason of religious affiliation?
Yes. A paragraph on page 107 of the legislation provides for individual religious exemptions. The language is non-specific with regard to particular faiths, however.

Read carefully:

(5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information [is required]:
(A) In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individual's status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe.

Similarly, page 128 of the legislation states:

&quot A) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—Such term [i.e., "applicable individual"] shall not include any individual for any month if such individual has in effect an exemption under section 1311(d)(4)(H) of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which certifies that such individual is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.
The above passage amends the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, of which Section 1402(g)(1) defines "a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof" as follows:

(1) Exemption
Any individual may file an application (in such form and manner, and with such official, as may be prescribed by regulations under this chapter) for an exemption from the tax imposed by this chapter if he is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care (including the benefits of any insurance system established by the Social Security Act). Such exemption may be granted only if the application contains or is accompanied by—
(A) such evidence of such individual’s membership in, and adherence to the tenets or teachings of, the sect or division thereof as the Secretary may require for purposes of determining such individual’s compliance with the preceding sentence, and

(B) his waiver of all benefits and other payments under titles II and XVIII of the Social Security Act on the basis of his wages and self-employment income as well as all such benefits and other payments to him on the basis of the wages and self-employment income of any other person,

and only if the Commissioner of Social Security finds that—

(C) such sect or division thereof has the established tenets or teachings referred to in the preceding sentence,

(D) it is the practice, and has been for a period of time which he deems to be substantial, for members of such sect or division thereof to make provision for their dependent members which in his judgment is reasonable in view of their general level of living, and

(E) such sect or division thereof has been in existence at all times since December 31, 1950.

[AllyCat]

6. Thank you for this!

Astonishing because she works with all these charities around the world and meets people I will never meet...and still spouts this nonsense at work about many of the people she is out there helping. Sigh...

[City Lights]

5. Freakrepublic is spreading that nonsense. nt

[onethatcares]

7. Politifact/Florida

has an antidote for 16 fabrications concerning the AHCA in the Sunday September 29 edition of the Tampa Bay Times.

I like using it to smack the idiots upside the head when necessary.