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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHealthcare.gov just deleted my account
or doesn't remember that I made one. Which is frustating.
I have to hope that whoever they contracted to build this is liable to repair it. Because it needs to be able to scale, and needs to be able to handle DDoS attacks, which I'm sure are happening.
I can't imagine HHS is employing the staff that is fixing these problems. Or that there is any staff available to do so right now...
Hope they manage to get it to scale by next week. Don't want the bad press to pick up once the beltway media gets bored of shutdown.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It doesn't recognize my login, and then, later in the day, it does.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... for web applications. Folks need to keep in mind that web programs are not and never will be as "robust" as native applications, i.e. programs you run directly on your computer. I will spare the long dissertation on why this is so, but it's not going to change soon.
That said, what is probably happening is something like this...
You enter your login name and password
The web page asks a database (either directly or thru a proxy element) to look you up.
The database server is so overloaded it "times out" without actually sending back an answer to the web page.
The web page (or proxy) code isn't particularly robust and it really does not distinguish a time out from a negative answer.
Again, all of this stuff will probably improve over time.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... that the coder/developers can do about DDOS attacks. In fact, there's not much ANYONE can do, unless they can figure out who it flipping the 'wake up and send packets' switch, not an easy thing to do.
I suspect it will be weeks before this thing is basically stable and longer than that before it is of average net quality.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)If it's a large botnet, once you have seen all the zombie IPs, can't you just block them?
B2G
(9,766 posts)This is CODE and LOAD. This looks nothing like a DOS attack.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)and although it may not be a conventional DDoS (and I thought the NY exchange was now suspicious that it was), I still wonder how many teabaggers are hitting reload on the browsers just out of spite.
I kind of chuckled when I read that as well.
Apparently the Op has never been on DU on a very busy day---or any other site that has sudden rush in traffic. They all slow down or---go down.
Yes---a DOS attack is similar, --- but it is not the cause.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. the authorities in NY in particular do believe their site was being attacked. There was an article posted here yesterday about it.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I suspect there are several telecom bottlenecks that need to be cleared.
I tried doing the overnight thing, but that didn't work for me either, although it did get me to the point at which it hung up when it tried to create the account. I'm going to try once more next week and then do the paper thing, because that's going to take a while.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)I work for a big government contractor. We are still working programs for which we have been paid.
That may change if the next tranche of money doesn't come through.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)And he said, he is still on the Job but his staff is not
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)so that means this doesn't get fixed until government opens again?
Teabaggers will never let us reopen...
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)It's so versatile & when you see it, no matter what it's form, you instantly know it's Obama! The one you're sporting is particularly nice, given ACA is his legacy legislation.
Marketing genius.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)well
I see a lot of "NObama" bumper stickers
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)I admire cool logos. Years ago I got behind a Mayflower moving truck. The trailers were bright yellow with a green Mayflower ship on the back of the trailer.
The trucker was driving much faster than I was & as the truck got further away from me, the green ship appeared to be flipping me off. After that, whenever I see their logo, I never see the ship, only flip the bird.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)I just tried to long back on and it keeps telling me the username/password is not correct, even though it is.
And it wouldn't let me create a new account either. I got partway through and it said something like the system is too busy now.
It's very frustrating.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Health service in our lil town has been mangled since the Act required computerizing of records and scripts.
The hospital, the various Dr. offices ( we have a surprising number of them, considering how small an area we are)
and the pharmacies were sold a computer system so they could talk to each other.
Have no idea who the seller was.
but the folks who have to use it are not trained, and have no clue about GIGO.
They seem to consider the puters as a lesser god of sorts, and "the computer says you live at THIS address, we can't chagne it"
has been happening for months now.
I watch my doc enter a script for, say, 180 tables for 90 days
then I go to the pharmacy who first says they do not have a script, where upon I insist they look in their puter..
"oh....yeah.....forgot about that...."
and then get a filled prescription for 90 tables with instructions to take them for 180 days.
Happens EVERY month.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)whttevrr
(2,345 posts)Anyone notice the one rec here, and here ~~> http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023782676 ?
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)I found this at the Kaiser Foundation website:
Coverage through the Marketplaces will begin in every state on January 1, 2014, with enrollment beginning October 1, 2013. States can elect to build a fully State-based Marketplace, enter into a state-federal Partnership Marketplace, or default into a Federally-facilitated Marketplace. The Affordable Care Act (ACA) directs the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) to establish and operate a Federally-facilitated Marketplace in any state that is not able or willing to establish a State-based Marketplace. In a Federally-facilitated Marketplace, HHS will perform all Marketplace functions. States entering into a Partnership Marketplace may administer plan management functions, in-person consumer assistance functions, or both, and HHS will perform the remaining Marketplace functions.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but why would we trust every state or federal website worker not to screw with the system?
Maybe I'm just paranoid. You guys know a lot more about coding and network admin than I ever will.
Sorry you're having problems, SJ! Hope it works out for you.