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bobGandolf

(871 posts) Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:39 AM Oct 2013

Our Democracy Is at Stake

Hell of a good article about what is at stake for our country with this shutdown.

"President Obama is not defending health care. He’s defending the health of our democracy. Every American who cherishes that should stand with him."
THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

[link:http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/opinion/friedman-our-democracy-is-at-stake.html|

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Our Democracy Is at Stake (Original Post) bobGandolf Oct 2013 OP

Obamacare is here to stay Joel thakkar Oct 2013 #1

The GOP has already eliminated alsame Oct 2013 #2

Agree.... bobGandolf Oct 2013 #3

Joel thakkar

(363 posts)

1. Obamacare is here to stay

Reply to bobGandolf (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:41 AM

Oct 2013

no matter what happens!

alsame

(7,784 posts)

2. The GOP has already eliminated

Reply to bobGandolf (Original post)

Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:58 AM

Oct 2013

majority rule in the Senate - it's now considered 'normal' to require 60 votes.

If they can do the same thing in the House, allowing the minority to call the shots, they are much more likely to control the entire government agenda even when they don't technically control the Congress or the WH.

I think this is the long game here, Obamacare was just the excuse.

bobGandolf

(871 posts)

3. Agree....

Reply to alsame (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 06:50 AM

Oct 2013

that whole 60 vote deal burns my ass. I'd really like to see a sequential history of it happened. I'm not a diehard political junkie, but I do follow politics, and it just seemed, all of a sudden, the 60 vote requirement was there.

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