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Resolution to declare Office of the Speaker vacant...it's time. (Original Post) Barack_America Oct 2013 OP
The devil you know is better than the devil you don't. redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #1
Resolution to declare Office of the Speaker vacant . . . could do so much more ready4changes Oct 2013 #2
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #3

redstatebluegirl

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1. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 11:58 AM
Oct 2013

I would rather have Boehner than some of the alternatives. I have to think that when push come to shove he will not allow us to default. He can't handle his party but I don't think anyone could right now, it is like herding cats. Look at the players!

I am not defending him, not at all! I am just saying at one point he was a moderate, the current climate in that party is just nuts!

I will say it is fun watching the party turn to ashes, but I am fearful of what may come up like a phoenix, it could be very scary. Until we can take back the house in 2014 these nuts have to be managed somehow.

ready4changes

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2. Resolution to declare Office of the Speaker vacant . . . could do so much more
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 05:12 PM
Oct 2013

While I agree that there are many worse choices in the House than John Boehner, the goal of declaring the Office of the Speaker vacant should be to increase the disharmony in the Republican party until they decide that they need to split into the Tea Party and the (moderate) Republican party. The result is that the Democrats are suddenly the largest party and can break the legislative logjam.

The sequence goes like this. Dems make the resolution to declare Office of Speaker vacant and state that they won't vote in the election of the Speaker.

Republicans and Tea Party fools declare war on each other as they try to find a candidate that they can support. Behind the scenes, Dems work to increase the disharmony in current Republican, encouraging the Tea Party fools to stick up for themselves and how they would be a force to reckon with if they were their own party and in charge. At the same time, the Dems try to find a moderate Republican (if there are any left) that would be able to get 25 votes in a Speaker election.

Eventually the Republican bloodletting stops and they elect a Speaker. Dems try to work with him to pass a clean CR. If the new Speaker won't create a clean CR, Dems again submit a resolution to declare Office of Speaker vacant, but this time they don't hold their votes. Instead, all 200 Dems vote for their chosen moderate (instead of Pelosi) who, with the 25 votes or so that he brings with him, gets elected as Speaker.

The beauty of the plan is that at some point the Tea Party fools decide that they can't stand the moderate Speaker and defect and start their own party (with Dems encouraging them the whole time). And until that happens, the Dems have a Speaker who needs their support if he wants to "hold the gavel." And any time that the moderate Speaker gets too full of himself, the Dems issue another resolution to declare Office of Speaker vacant and the Republicans go back to fighting among themselves, with the Dems holding the deciding votes.

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