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Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 04:07 PM Oct 2013

The incident in D.C. illustrates the need for better mental health options....

Actually, scratch that, I hate the term "mental health" it now seems to me to be a carry over of the stigma of people who exhibit unusual or rare behaviors that implies that the problem is something that is somehow their fault, i.e. you're just mental.

The issue is that the problem is in their heads, literally, most...behaviors we label as pathological are the result of physical damage to the brain, or chemical imbalances in the brain, or the way the brain is wired, in other words, its something physical and measurable, and ultimately, treatable.

The biggest issue is that there is still a big stigma attached to having any disorder of the brain, which creates a huge problem for the people that have these disorders, because, just when they need the most support, their support structure vanishes. The cultural attitudes surrounding this needs to change, and more understanding needs to be resolved, people who have clinical depression aren't just in a funk they can will themselves out of, bi-polar people aren't just having mood swings, schizophrenics don't always hear voices. Its shit like this that creates victims, rather than patients.

Even worse, the people who suffer such disorders, in many cases, believe it too, and then don't seek proper treatment.

On top of this are the ways we treat these disorders, now, I'm not going to say things are archaic, but its pretty damn close, though slightly better than 30 years ago. But we still have issues with the side effects of anti-psychotics and other powerful drugs that, while they help make people functional again, only barely just, and at huge cost to the patient, this also means many of them stop taking the medications because of the side effects.

A lot of people seem to think that taking these types of drugs is as much an inconvenience as them taking 80 mg aspirin for their heart. But imagine a 20 year old, recently diagnosed with one of these disorders, who has to take a drug that will dull the senses and basically prevent them from feeling much emotion(if at all), for the rest of their lives. Or medications that give you suicidal thoughts, or numerous other side effects that are just as horrible.

We need better public awareness of brain health, and not just those literal fish oil salespeople hawking Omega-3. We also need better research in both chemical and non-chemical means to treat such disorders, focusing on reducing or eliminating side affects as well as treatment.

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The incident in D.C. illustrates the need for better mental health options.... (Original Post) Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 OP
I presume (without reading you post) by incident in DC, you mean the Gov shutdown, LOL. DrewFlorida Oct 2013 #1
Why did you respond? n/t Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #2
It was an atempt at humor. DrewFlorida Oct 2013 #3
I was suggesting that the Congress shuting down the federal government..... DrewFlorida Oct 2013 #4
You are assuming she didn't get treatment. Barack_America Oct 2013 #5
That's part of my second to last paragraph... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #6
Meds can stop working. That was my point. Barack_America Oct 2013 #7

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
4. I was suggesting that the Congress shuting down the federal government.....
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:22 PM
Oct 2013

was the incident which illustrated the need for more mental health options.

I guess if a joke doesn't work it's not a very good joke.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
5. You are assuming she didn't get treatment.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:25 PM
Oct 2013

And are underestimating the continued struggle of mental illness even for those who get treatment.

According to her mother, she was diagnosed and hospitalized previously. Psychiatric meds were found at her home. But, unfortunately, there is no cure for mental illness and she could have decompensated for any number of reasons.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
6. That's part of my second to last paragraph...
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:51 PM
Oct 2013

also illustrates the need for research to figure out what does work, and what doesn't for each individual.

It took my fiancee over a year and a change(twice) of doctors to figure out the right combination of drugs to treat her bipolar disorder without the debilitating side affects she had before, she had such bad anxiety that it would make her vomit, she would be so unmotivated, she would have to be dragged out of the bed to make sure she would shower.

Now she is much more stable, and happy, but it was a struggle. At least she has it easier than my mom did 30+ years ago, when her options were Lithium and well, Lithium, which lead to some horrendous side affects, having to get it constantly adjusted, and even then she would end up having to go away for a couple weeks to up to a month, to the hospital, because her medications weren't working.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
7. Meds can stop working. That was my point.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 05:56 PM
Oct 2013

Anti-psychotics, which were found in her condo, are notoriously tricky to balance. And it's not like we don't have a bunch of them out there.

On edit, truly glad your fiancée is doing better.

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