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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Serious' Republicans unnerved not by shutdown damage to nation, but to party
'Serious' Republicans unnerved not by shutdown damage to nation, but to party
by Hunter
Title of New York Times article: GOP Elders See Liabilities in Shutdown. Ya think?
Oh noes, the nation was this close to realizing that Obamacare was worse than all the Hitlerz but then House Republicans had to stick their foot in their mouths and swallow them up to the hipbone. We get to hear once again that Republican senators are very, very angry at freshman senator Ted Cruz for telling House Republicans that their feet were delicious, but also that a conservative group aligned with Cruz has been attacking Republicans who voted contrary to him and that is probably the biggest crime of all:
We also hear that the scions of the party, people like Jeb! are worried that all of the rampant foot-eating is making the public think the party is a bunch of foot-eaters.
You may note that none of the talk, and by that I mean jack-all, and by that I mean zero, is directed at how shutting down the government and hurting wide swaths of America is a Bad Thing. No, it's all about how it makes them look, and whether or not it will hurt their own careers, and which groups are printing up literature against them, and whether or not the Jeb Bushii of the party will now be saddled with coming up with a plausible sounding excuse as to why their party continues to devolve into self-cannibalism while attempting to blow the usual smoke about how the party will change, pinky swear, if we just vote for one more batch of the people waving their knives and forks around. Whether or not this or that group of perfectly innocent and by-golly necessary federal workers start losing their homes when the next round of paychecks does not come is of no interest whatsoeverthe problem for Serious Republicans is all about how all of that might make Serious Republicans look bad.
Given that any group of Serious House Republicans could end this entire episode, and in vote after vote cannot be bothered, it should be abundantly clear that there are no Serious House Republicans. Given that any of these other non-House Serious Republicans could be doing considerably more to rein the cannibals in and have pointedly not, in the years that led up to this moment, it should be clear that there are no Serious Republicans outside of the House either. This will end only when House Republicans have so cannibalized each other as to have left not even the smallest pretense of seriousness behind, and heaven knows that none of the stories already coming out about the damage being done to the wider nation has budged them so far.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/04/1244185/--Serious-Republicans-unnerved-not-by-shutdown-damage-to-nation-but-to-party
by Hunter
Title of New York Times article: GOP Elders See Liabilities in Shutdown. Ya think?
The hard-line stance of Republican House members on the government shutdown is generating increasing anger among senior Republican officials, who say the small bloc of conservatives is undermining the party and helping President Obama just as the American people appeared to be losing confidence in him.
Oh noes, the nation was this close to realizing that Obamacare was worse than all the Hitlerz but then House Republicans had to stick their foot in their mouths and swallow them up to the hipbone. We get to hear once again that Republican senators are very, very angry at freshman senator Ted Cruz for telling House Republicans that their feet were delicious, but also that a conservative group aligned with Cruz has been attacking Republicans who voted contrary to him and that is probably the biggest crime of all:
Ms. Ayotte asked Mr. Cruz to disavow the groups effort and demanded he explain his strategy. When he did not, several other senators including Mr. Johnson, Mr. Coats and even Mitch McConnell, the minority leader joined in the criticism of Mr. Cruz.
It just started a lynch mob, said a senator who was present.
We also hear that the scions of the party, people like Jeb! are worried that all of the rampant foot-eating is making the public think the party is a bunch of foot-eaters.
(Jeb!) Bushs comments reflect what has become gospel among many Republican professionals: that the language and images projected by the Washington wing of the party are interfering with efforts to modernize.
You may note that none of the talk, and by that I mean jack-all, and by that I mean zero, is directed at how shutting down the government and hurting wide swaths of America is a Bad Thing. No, it's all about how it makes them look, and whether or not it will hurt their own careers, and which groups are printing up literature against them, and whether or not the Jeb Bushii of the party will now be saddled with coming up with a plausible sounding excuse as to why their party continues to devolve into self-cannibalism while attempting to blow the usual smoke about how the party will change, pinky swear, if we just vote for one more batch of the people waving their knives and forks around. Whether or not this or that group of perfectly innocent and by-golly necessary federal workers start losing their homes when the next round of paychecks does not come is of no interest whatsoeverthe problem for Serious Republicans is all about how all of that might make Serious Republicans look bad.
Given that any group of Serious House Republicans could end this entire episode, and in vote after vote cannot be bothered, it should be abundantly clear that there are no Serious House Republicans. Given that any of these other non-House Serious Republicans could be doing considerably more to rein the cannibals in and have pointedly not, in the years that led up to this moment, it should be clear that there are no Serious Republicans outside of the House either. This will end only when House Republicans have so cannibalized each other as to have left not even the smallest pretense of seriousness behind, and heaven knows that none of the stories already coming out about the damage being done to the wider nation has budged them so far.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/04/1244185/--Serious-Republicans-unnerved-not-by-shutdown-damage-to-nation-but-to-party
President Obama's speech detailed Republican belligerence in causing the Government shutdown
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023782420
Ted Cruz Warns That Shutdown Could Lead To A Terrorist Attack Against U.S.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023767928
Poll Indicates GOP Has Been Deeply Damaged By Shutdown Fight
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023758198
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'Serious' Republicans unnerved not by shutdown damage to nation, but to party (Original Post)
ProSense
Oct 2013
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)1. Kick! n/t
ProSense
(116,464 posts)2. Oh my! The "the joint speaker of the House" is at it again.
Cruz: GOP Already Compromised By Demanding To Defund, Not Repeal Obamacare
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), or "the joint speaker of the House" as Harry Reid calls him, argued Friday that Republicans have already offered Democrats a concession in their stand against reopening the government in demanding not a full repeal of Obamacare, but merely the defunding of President Barack Obama signature health law.
The House of Representatives has repeatedly compromised already," said Cruz, already who spoke against funding the law on the Senate floor for 21 hours earlier this month. "The House began -- it is the view of every Republican in this body, and indeed every Republican in the House, that Obamacare should be entirely and completely repealed. Nonetheless, the House started with a compromise of saying not repealing Obamacare but simply that it should be defunded.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-gop-already-compromised-by-demanding-to-defund-not-repeal-obamacare
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), or "the joint speaker of the House" as Harry Reid calls him, argued Friday that Republicans have already offered Democrats a concession in their stand against reopening the government in demanding not a full repeal of Obamacare, but merely the defunding of President Barack Obama signature health law.
The House of Representatives has repeatedly compromised already," said Cruz, already who spoke against funding the law on the Senate floor for 21 hours earlier this month. "The House began -- it is the view of every Republican in this body, and indeed every Republican in the House, that Obamacare should be entirely and completely repealed. Nonetheless, the House started with a compromise of saying not repealing Obamacare but simply that it should be defunded.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-gop-already-compromised-by-demanding-to-defund-not-repeal-obamacare
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)3. They just don't know when to stop....
ProSense
(116,464 posts)4. No, they don't.
They don't care.