Boehner: "No way" will republicans will raise debt limit without spending cuts

[cali]

Pressed on the ABC news program "This Week" on whether the Republican-led House would pass a "clean" debt ceiling increase that included no conditions, Boehner replied: "I told the president, there's no way we're going to pass one."

"We're not going down that path," he added. "It is time to deal with America's problems. How can you raise the debt limit and do nothing about the underlying problem?"

As the country moved into the sixth day of a government shutdown, Boehner was equally adamant that Republicans would demand concessions for any bill to reopen the government.

Republicans want changes to President Barack Obama's signature healthcare law known as Obamacare as a condition for backing a measure to fund government agencies.

<snip>

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/06/us-usa-fiscal-boehner-idUSBRE99509V20131006

[BluegrassStateBlues]

1. No one can claim that Boehner's hands are tied.

He is now one with the Tea Party and will forever be tied to them...

Drunken fool.

[Coyotl]

4. "Please proceed" John. See your 2014 and raise you 2016.

#GOPshutdown

#GOPshutdown

[KaryninMiami]

2. Just watched this- all I can say is

Fuck you John Boehner. You are a disgrace and you should be ashamed for the harm you are doing to this country. You and your billionaire pals are the underlying problem you asshole- not "entitlement programs". How DARE you hold this country hostage!

[cali]

3. let me echo your FUCK YOU JOHN BOEHNER

[KaryninMiami]

9. Why thank you my dear Cali!

We can together say "Fuck You John Boehner" in harmony. Anyone else care to join us? The more the merrier!

[L0oniX]

5. Obama ...use the War Powers Act to fund the government.

Were at war perpetually ...and we're at war with the asshole morans too ...so use the tools. The GOP is giving aid and comfort to the enemy ...arrest them.

[flobee1]

6. FINE!

subsidies to oil companies are over. subsidies to Morgan Stanley are over.
2 major budget cuts-give us a clean CR now

[Roland99]

7. It's *ALREADY* cut! The bill submitted back to the House by the Senate was the sequester budget!

They want to cut it more?!?!

Fucking terrorists!

Boehner Urges G.O.P. Unity in ‘Epic Battle’
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/us/politics/boehner-urges-gop-unity-in-epic-battle.html?hp&_r=0

Democrats say they simply cannot trust the speaker to deliver. Mr. Reid said in an interview in his office on Friday that Mr. Boehner came to him at the end of July with a proposition: If Senate Democratic leaders could accept a stopgap spending measure in the fall at levels that reflected across-the-board spending cuts, the speaker would refrain from adding extraneous measures that could precipitate a clash.

Mr. Reid was leery, since that level — $988 billion in discretionary spending for the 2014 fiscal year — would be $70 billion less than the Senate-passed budget. “I didn’t like it. I’ve got a couple of tough women to deal with,” he said, referring to Senators Patty Murray of Washington, the chairwoman of the Budget Committee, and Barbara A. Mikulski of Maryland, chairwoman of the Appropriations Committee.

On Sept. 12, in a meeting of the top four Congressional leaders, Mr. Boehner said he was running into problems with a conservative groundswell demanding that a gutting of the health law accompany any spending measure. Mr. Reid and Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, suggested a procedural step that would allow the House to vote on a stopgap spending bill with a side provision removing funds from the health care law that the Senate could strip out before sending the spending measure to the president.

Again, the speaker agreed. And again, he could not carry through, Mr. Reid said. “If I told him I would do something, I would do that,” the Senate leader said.

GOP Rep Admits Reid Compromised On Shutdown Negotiations
Harry Reid Compromised On Shutdown Negotiation, House Republican Acknowledges
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/harry-reid-shutdown_n_4050400.html

“It is a concession, I acknowledge that,” Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-Colo.) told The Huffington Post on Saturday. “I was glad to see that lower number. It didn’t take defense spending into account. We still have a big discrepancy between the House and Senate version. But there has been some compromise and I acknowledge that.”

(Lamborn, for what it's worth, is no centrist. He signed on to a letter saying a government shutdown was preferable to the implementation of Obamacare.)

So what have Democrats received in return for that compromise? If you ask many of them, they’d say "not a whole lot." Progressives complained bitterly that funding the government at $988 billion would set a bad precedent for future negotiations. Administration officials acknowledge that it would hurt the president’s priorities. But they and the party's congressional leadership made the case that a continuing resolution at that level would be tolerable provided it lasted for a short period of time and allowed for more substantial budget negotiations.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has insisted that House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) agreed with this basic deal, to which Boehner’s top spokesman, Michael Steel, replied: “We don’t discuss private conversations between the Speaker and the Senate Majority Leader.”

RE: Debt Ceiling
Congressman Steve King: "We don't know what kind of demands we're going to have."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/05/1244387/-Rep-Steve-King-We-don-t-know-what-kinds-of-demands-we-re-going-to-have

The media seems to finally understand that if you talk to Tea Baggers, they will put their dishonesty and craziness on full display for all to see. Out of the mouths of nutcases sometimes comes the truth. And the king of the Tea Party nutcases in the congress is Republican Steve King.

As I was listening to an NPR interview with him this morning, my mouth dropped as I heard him admit that the Republicans have shutdown the government and are threatening to send the world into economic chaos, and they don't even know what the hell they want.

[div]"We don't know how this is going to emerge," he says. "We don't know what kinds of demands we're going to have. And so I want to make sure we have people here to answer the phones, to respond to the needs that we have, to deal with any legislation that we might be able to work."

This SOLELY on THEIR shoulders!

[spanone]

8. congressional terrorism. our nation is held hostage by republican teapartiers.

send in the swat teams

[ladjf]

15. and to make the matter worse, there doesn't seem to be a law against overthrowing the government

if the conspirators are Congressmen. nt

[MoonRiver]

10. I thought there was NO WAY he was going to let the country default on its debts.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Buns_of_Fire]

11. In the finest republican tradition, "That statement is inoperative."

THIS is the "operative" statement.

Until the next one, of course.

[boston bean]

12. Did we not just have sequestration?

Someone help explain this to me. Hasn't this been solved, at least in their demented minds?

[davekriss]

13. How about a 100% cut in pay for Senators?

[Buddha_of_Wisdom]

18. No.

100% pay cut for Republicans House and Senate members until further notice.

[Bigmack]

14. I agree with Boner...

We need deep cuts...

I suggest we cut the DOD... Adjusting for inflation, we now spend more on "defense" than America has spent on defense in any year since World War II—more than during the Korean war, the Vietnam war, or the Reagan military buildup. Much of that enormous sum results from spending increases under presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. Since 2001, military and security expenditures have soared by 119 percent.

Start with the F-35... that'll save 3/4 of a Trillion bucks.
Cut the V-22. Dump the Littoral Combat Ship.

Close most overseas bases. America’s armed forces are almost entirely expeditionary. The United States has about 400,000 active-duty personnel stationed overseas, including around 59,000 in Germany and 33,000 in Japan.

The latest submarines cost $7 billion, the latest aircraft carriers $11 billion. Since we have an enormous superiority - in quantity and quality - in those weapons, we could defer more construction.

SecDef Gates has estimated that, a decade from now, the United States will possess 20 times as many advanced fighter aircraft as China. Yet the Pentagon is seeking funding for thousands of additional fighters. The Navy has eleven carrier strike groups—each a large nuclear aircraft carrier typically accompanied by guided-missile cruisers and destroyers, plus two nuclear submarines unseen beneath. These strike groups are so powerful that no other nation’s warships could draw within firing distance before being sunk. No other nation will try, because while the United States has eleven nuclear supercarriers, the rest of the world has none.

So.... I guess I'm agreeing with Boner. Cuts should be made.

[Andy823]

16. Boehner is right

We do need to do something about the underlying problem, and since the republicans are the problem, we need to vote them out of office!

The more republicans pull this BS, the worse it will get. I think the president should use the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling. Sure republicans will scream for impeachment, but after all the BS with this shutdown I think it would be insane to try, and if they did try, it would only drive more nails into their coffin!

Americans, all of them, need to wake up and see the light in front of them. Republicans don't want to help the people of this country, and it's time to vote these jerks out of office in 2014. The more they fight the president the more they hurt themselves. I think the president is giving them all the rope they need to hang themselves.

[Buddha_of_Wisdom]

17. Boehner needs to resign effective immediately or ordered into an mental hospital for the next 72

hours.