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applegrove

(118,691 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:22 PM Oct 2013

"What Moderate Republicans"

What Moderate Republicans

The Dish andrewsullivan.com

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/10/08/what-moderate-republicans/

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The purge has worked, hasn’t it? There is effectively no Republican party any more. There is a radical movement to destroy the modern American state and eviscerate its institutions in favor of restoring a mythical, elysian, majority-white, nineteenth-century past. This crisis is proving that more powerfully than even watching Fox. We need to see what is in front of our nose: a cold civil war has broken out between those properly called conservatives, defending the credit of the government, empirical reality, and adjustments to modern life and those properly called radical reactionaries declaring our current elected president and Senate as illegitimate actors, bent on the destruction of America, and therefore necessitating total political warfare, even to the point of threatening to destroy the global economy.

There is a really tough choice for the president to make – almost as tough as the choices Lincoln had to make.

Does he try to negotiate with those who simply wish to nullify his election or does he reluctantly declare war in return in order to save the republic from an economic catastrophe? I’m glad I’m not president at a moment like this. But I sure hope the president reads Sean Wilentz today and listens to former president Bill Clinton from last July:

He pointed to an obscure provision in the 14th Amendment, saying he would unilaterally invoke it “without hesitation” to raise the debt ceiling, “and force the courts to stop me.”



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"What Moderate Republicans" (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2013 OP
If we are to pass immigration reform and a jobs bill, etc Southside Oct 2013 #1
The GOP has done its damnedest to ensure nothing good passes. Orsino Oct 2013 #4
Yup yup Southside Oct 2013 #5
No kidding gopiscrap Oct 2013 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #3

Southside

(338 posts)
1. If we are to pass immigration reform and a jobs bill, etc
Tue Oct 8, 2013, 09:34 PM
Oct 2013

We need to work with republicans in the house, can they really do nothing for the next 3 years? I guess they did nothing this year. How can you win elections if you don't pass anything and ObamaCare is still going? They will be easy pickings for Tea Party candidates in primaries.

The whole strategy seems convoluted, do nothing with Obama so you don't upset the Tea Party, then campaign on two years of nothing and hope the Tea Party does not run against you in the primary. I would choose working with democrats to help my constituents.

Maybe there is no strategy and they will live off sequestration cuts and blocking amnesty. Sick.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
4. The GOP has done its damnedest to ensure nothing good passes.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:39 PM
Oct 2013

Unless "we" shame them properly, I don't see that changing, and even then, not much good can happen.

They are too far up the Koch's asses to work for us.

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