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Easy way to get information on your state's health insurance plans (Original Post) steve2470 Oct 2013 OP
A big welcome to Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #1
Hmm Hawaii doesn't work. dkf Oct 2013 #2
hmmm bummer about Hawaii, I'll see if I can let them know nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #4
Click on exchange summary and go to State exchange link theCHARLOTTEan Oct 2013 #8
What is awful? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #40
Lol. High $400's per month. NY was worse. dkf Oct 2013 #41
With or without subsidy? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #42
I wouldn't get one. dkf Oct 2013 #56
Texas let us know where we stand on the list Blue_Roses Oct 2013 #3
K&R.. thanks Steve Cha Oct 2013 #5
yvw, anything to help the implementation of the PPACA ! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #6
Yes, I saw the Cha Oct 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author DevonRex Oct 2013 #9
Doesn't work for me in Texas. Tried adjusting basically everything, but nothing happened. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #10
I got Gold, Silver, Bronze and Catastrophic plans to work nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #11
Still not working for me. I am using Internet Explorer, maybe that's it. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #24
Try it on chrome/firefox n/t Joel thakkar Oct 2013 #27
Working with firefox. Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #39
Worked on Safari and Chrome (mac) for me Rstrstx Oct 2013 #57
Thanks! Works just great for Florida. djean111 Oct 2013 #12
So what do I get for free with these plans? Cuz I'm not paying any part of a $6k deductible. DireStrike Oct 2013 #13
Yes, the ACA is not affordable JimDandy Oct 2013 #15
"The ACA mainly helps the poor and low middle-income households" 20-25k a year here DireStrike Oct 2013 #16
Well, then it's worse than I thought, JimDandy Oct 2013 #17
Yeah. I'm sure the cost for not going completely bankrupt is less. DireStrike Oct 2013 #20
I don't know, but I hope none of the insurance companies JimDandy Oct 2013 #21
for a 29 year old, earning 22k per year Joel thakkar Oct 2013 #29
VA. I don't see anything without a big deductible that doesn't also have a copay DireStrike Oct 2013 #36
Doesn't matter what you can afford, you'll give what money you have to the insurance companies... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #25
Kick madokie Oct 2013 #14
Bookmarking, thanks! B Calm Oct 2013 #18
Works for me in NC mnhtnbb Oct 2013 #19
Same here. Trying to convince my wife we can afford to retire. B Calm Oct 2013 #59
HUGE bonanza for insurance companies BlueStreak Oct 2013 #22
It worked, but I'm confused. MrsKirkley Oct 2013 #23
Kaiser was using approximate (estimated) policy figures Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #44
What doesn't make sense is the absence of policies with actuarial values. MrsKirkley Oct 2013 #47
Okay, I have some info that will help Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #49
kick for pm crowd nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #26
K&BloodyF'nR! Roland99 Oct 2013 #28
Good grief panader0 Oct 2013 #30
are you eligible for subsidies or do you have employer-provided insurance available? Roland99 Oct 2013 #32
make sure you're comparing Silver to Silver, etc nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #37
Are you not eligible for medicaid making that level of income? DireStrike Oct 2013 #38
Your income is too low to qualify for the subsidy Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #45
Thanks, steve2470 and theCHARLOTTEan! City Lights Oct 2013 #31
yvw ! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #35
This is FANTASTIC!!! Thank you so, so much! This is what I wanted to see. riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #33
yvw ! :) nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #34
Can't believe PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #43
bump nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #46
Kicking B Calm Oct 2013 #48
Is there an easy way to find the list of doctors and hospitals pnwmom Oct 2013 #50
I don't know of any way but, theCHARLOTTEan Oct 2013 #52
Thanks! And welcome to DU, theCHARLOTTEan! n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #54
Why go to any site other than the official one? xfundy Oct 2013 #51
Because we can't get in riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #55
This is excellent! A very big thank you! chill_wind Oct 2013 #53
Wow, some states actually have choices. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #58

theCHARLOTTEan

(15 posts)
8. Click on exchange summary and go to State exchange link
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:42 AM
Oct 2013

The summary also lists the insurance providers along with the exchange.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
3. Texas let us know where we stand on the list
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:23 AM
Oct 2013

of priorities back when our "wonderful" governor told us to forgot about healthcare in this state.

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
57. Worked on Safari and Chrome (mac) for me
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:49 PM
Oct 2013

OTOH I can't get healthcare.gov to work correctly on Safari, but Chrome and Firefox will

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
13. So what do I get for free with these plans? Cuz I'm not paying any part of a $6k deductible.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:15 AM
Oct 2013

These are the prices for a non-smoking 29 year old?!

This is not really affordable at all. It'd still take me several years to pay off if I max out the deductible (and actually that's before I factor in the monthly cost of the health insurance.) It's useful if I get cancer, I guess.

The more expensive plans have "better" deductibles, but are simply more expensive from the start.

Unless I get a decent amount of care for free, I'm not happy about how this will affect me financially.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
15. Yes, the ACA is not affordable
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:43 AM
Oct 2013

for certain portions of the population and a lot of people are still going to go bankrupt from medical bills. And another number of them forced to pay the premiums will not be able to get medical care because they can't afford the deductibles.

The ACA mainly helps the poor and low middle-income households and those with catastrophic or chronic conditions.

We absolutely need single-payer. It makes me sick that money will be going into the pockets of insurance companies and no medical care will be received from it.

The money from all these millions of premimums and deductions could have gone directly to health care providers and provided actual medical care for millions of people.

Currently, I'm one of the beneficiaries of the ACA, but I feel so bad for those who aren't.

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
16. "The ACA mainly helps the poor and low middle-income households" 20-25k a year here
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:51 AM
Oct 2013

That is why I'm baffled by this.

And I also have a chronic condition that I won't be treating because, well, I can't.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
17. Well, then it's worse than I thought,
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 05:17 AM
Oct 2013

if someone with only a $20,000 income can't get affordable insurance!

My hope is that fixes for some of these ACA problems will be forthcoming in the next few years.

ACA is still a better system then the nothingness that existed before, though.

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
20. Yeah. I'm sure the cost for not going completely bankrupt is less.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 06:00 AM
Oct 2013

And I'm sure the cost curve will bend a tiny bit.

I wish I had the luxury of choosing a non profit provider. It sickens me to give money to insurance companies. But I'd rather have something than nothing, so I'll pay the fee instead of the penalty.

Does the penalty go to funding the ACA or is it just general revenue?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
21. I don't know, but I hope none of the insurance companies
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 06:08 AM
Oct 2013

benefit from penalty money. That would just be too much.

Joel thakkar

(363 posts)
29. for a 29 year old, earning 22k per year
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:04 PM
Oct 2013

silver is around $200 per month without any deductible in many states...what is your state?

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
36. VA. I don't see anything without a big deductible that doesn't also have a copay
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:19 PM
Oct 2013

I looked at the silver plans later on and noticed the low deductibles and higher premiums. They seem a lot better, until you see something like a 30% copay... and a lot of plans have "no information available" on various aspects so it's hard to calculate.

Also $200 a month is not affordable. $100 a month is quite a long stretch... though it may be a "reasonable" cost for healthcare, maybe even a "good" price compared to pre-ACA levels... that money has to come out of nowhere basically.

There's also a huge difference between subsidies comparing just a 5k difference in income. If my income is 20k, I can get a bronze "some protection from bankruptcy" plan for $1 a month! At 25k, that plan becomes $60 a month!

Can I manage it? Of course, but it means my debt gets paid off slower; I can't save as much when the debt is gone; and/or I have to scale back my standard of living (which is pretty minimal already, tbh) to pay for a plan I can't afford to use.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
25. Doesn't matter what you can afford, you'll give what money you have to the insurance companies...
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:44 PM
Oct 2013

Or. Fucking. Else.

That's our new Democratic Party position.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
22. HUGE bonanza for insurance companies
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 10:09 AM
Oct 2013

Thanks for this very useful reference site. It doesn't have any data for my county (the largest county in the state), but I looked at data from the next county, which should be similar. I was immediately struck by how HIGH the prices are. And the prices just "happen" to track the subsidies.

It is difficult to get apples-to-apples comparisons, but let me try to illustrate. I have a high-deductible HSA-capable policy. There is nothing like that on the exchange. My policy for 2 people has been about $800/mo and is rising to around $900. As I recall when we were shopping for that policy last year, the "normal deductible" policies that would be comparable to what I see on the exchange were in the range of $1000-$1300 /mo for 2 people

When you look at this data, the subsidies are higher than that, and the policies are all in the $1500+ range -- and that is with very tight network restrictions, I believe.

It is pretty obvious what is going on here. The insurance companies are jacking up their prices to match the available subsidies. And yes, I realize that they have to show that they have only 20% overhead on these policies or else they have to rebate premiums to the customer. But they will find ways around that.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
44. Kaiser was using approximate (estimated) policy figures
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 05:21 PM
Oct 2013

This one is using actual prices. The actual subsidy is a dollar amount figured on the basis of your income AND the second cheapest Silver policy on the exchange. So then from there you apply the figured subsidy to the cost of each plan, and that yields the final monthly premium, which will differ depending on how high the premiums for the individual plan are.

But the devil is in the deductibles and copays, because for some people their insurance premium will be manageable, but they will not be able to afford the deductible/copays to actually get treatment and drugs. That is why lower income people are freaking out in some cases. If they have to pay $500 for an MRI they are not going to get it.

I hope that makes sense. Kaiser was an estimate only, based on the national averages which they were estimating into the future.

If what I wrote doesn't make sense, try this at the ValuePenguin site:
http://www.valuepenguin.com/understanding-aca-subsidies

MrsKirkley

(180 posts)
47. What doesn't make sense is the absence of policies with actuarial values.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 06:23 PM
Oct 2013

The Kaiser calculator said I would be eligible for a policy with an actuarial value of 94%, which means I'd only have to pay for 6% of everything. So why don't the co-insurance listed on the policies I was given after entering my information reflect that? It should say they pay 94% and I pay 6%. It's not showing that at all!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
49. Okay, I have some info that will help
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:32 PM
Oct 2013

Longer version here, and you can click on the other links inside the article to get info on the other pieces:
http://healthinsurance.about.com/od/reform/a/How-The-Cost-sharing-Health-Insurance-Subsidy-Works.htm

Here's the basic cost-sharing rule:


94 percent of your expenses if your income is 100-150 percent of FPL
For individuals with a 2013 income from $11,490-$17,235.
For couples with a 2013 income from $15,510-$23,265.
87 percent of your expenses if your income is 150-200 percent of FPL
For individuals with a 2013 income from $17,235-$22,980.
For couples with a 2013 income from$23,265-$31,020.
73 percent of your expenses if your income is 200-250 percent of FPL
For individuals with a 2013 income from $22,980-$28,725.
For couples with a 2013 income from $31,020-$38,775.


However, the ins co does not have to apply it across the board. The ins co could lower your deductible to achieve the cost-sharing, or it could leave the deductible in place and cut co-payments more after that. Or it cut cut everything in ratio. The silver plans have a 70/30 cost-sharing structure, so if you were single and your income was 23K last year, you would only save 10% off the values you see. But if your income was 15K, you would save 24% off the values you see.

So assuming single, silver:
Income/ Cost-sharing:
30K/ 30%
23K/27%
20K/13%
15K/6%.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
30. Good grief
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:08 PM
Oct 2013

The plans for me, at $9,800.00 income a year, range from $450.00 to over one thou a month.
Can this be right? No way can I afford that.
On edit: just went back and checked the rates for someone making $35,000 and it's much less per month. How can that be?

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
45. Your income is too low to qualify for the subsidy
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 05:33 PM
Oct 2013

Check and see if you can get Medicaid in your state, for which you qualify under federal (but not necessarily state) rules.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
33. This is FANTASTIC!!! Thank you so, so much! This is what I wanted to see.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:14 PM
Oct 2013

Many thanks steve2470 and Charlotte!!



pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
50. Is there an easy way to find the list of doctors and hospitals
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:39 PM
Oct 2013

that are associated with a given plan?

theCHARLOTTEan

(15 posts)
52. I don't know of any way but,
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 09:11 PM
Oct 2013

because many of these networks are new you may have to contact the insurance company directly. Or call an agent. They are likely to be adding doctors as the deadline ends depending on how popular a plan is. Even a poor paying plan is better than no patients for an under utilized doctor or facility.

I was only able to check Blue Cross of Tennessee site because I already have insurance with them. The 800# was able to confirm my doctor was not in the plan but without accessing the web data I don't know how you could select a doctor in the network without knowing they were in the network.Catch-22. Other companies I looked at in other states were better, but its really a crap shoot if your young or new to an area.

Best of luck to you in your search.

theCHARLOTTEan

Go TITANS

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
51. Why go to any site other than the official one?
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 08:55 PM
Oct 2013

I know it's hard to believe, but repigs have set up several sites giving inaccurate information just so Fox Noise could report on the Horrors of Obamacare!

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
58. Wow, some states actually have choices.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:56 PM
Oct 2013

In Alaska we can choose between Premera, Premera, and Premera. And something called MODA, whatever that is.

I'm glad I have Medicare.

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