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alp227

(32,027 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:24 AM Oct 2013

"Progressive Ideology was Nazi Germany!" Internet comment on Habitat for Humanity/Jimmy Carter story

Jimmy Carter visited my part of the country, a rather progressive one, volunteering with Habitat for Humanity. Unfortunately, on my local newspaper's facebook page, SOMEBODY had to play the role of right wing asshole:

...history says that Conservative Republicans lead the way on Civil Rights and Slavery, while the Democratic Klan are the ones dragging us back to the Racist '60s and Communist '30s. Progressive Ideology was Nazi Germany! How ignorant are you?


And this guy proudly writes this on the Internet alongside a photo of himself and his son. Shamelessly.

I then asked him where he got this from, and his amazing, scholarly citation is...a letter to the editor with the same old lame, half-true "Democrats were segregationists" talking points.

To this wingnut and others who drone on with the SAME crappy myths they get from the game of telephone played by Glenn Beck, Fox News, right wing talk radio, etc. they've SEEN THE LIGHT and OPENED THEIR MINDS and FREED THEMSELVES from the evil liberal indoctrination brainwashing public school communist conspiracy. People want to feel smarter than they really are, and they'll drink any flavor of Kool Aid if that means they hear what they want to hear.

I'm just too damn tired to keep feeding this troll, but I do know that Everett Dirksen was FAR from a "conservative" in the modern sense of the term, as he supported some New Deal programs like Social Security and the minimum wage as a member of the House. But he did endorse Robert Taft for president in 1952 rather than Dwight Eisenhower; the "Tea Party" of that era including Phyllis Schlafly endorsed Taft. The Senate historian regards Dirksen as a member of the conservative and moderate wings of the GOP, and Republican Sen. Mark Kirk's office wrote in a press release, "Known as a pragmatic moderate, Dirksen is best remembered for his work as Senate Minority Leader during the 1960s and the Civil Rights Movement." Still I'll take Dirksen over Mitch McConnell any day.
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"Progressive Ideology was Nazi Germany!" Internet comment on Habitat for Humanity/Jimmy Carter story (Original Post) alp227 Oct 2013 OP
Anyone to the left of Ayn Rand is considered a communist nowadays... oh08dem Oct 2013 #1
Edward Everett Dirkson was a character. longship Oct 2013 #2
? his full name is Everett McKinley Dirksen. nt alp227 Oct 2013 #3
Oopsie. Brain fart. longship Oct 2013 #6
Pathetic idots masquarading as human beings. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #4
Glenn Beck rails against ‘progressive’ washing machines Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #5
Wait'll he finds out about the slot machines pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #7
Its Orwellian. Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #9
You did see the guy post a GlennBeck.com article as "evidence" to back up his comment, right? nt alp227 Oct 2013 #8
But not about washing machines Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #10

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. Edward Everett Dirkson was a character.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:38 AM
Oct 2013

He had a mellifluous resonant voice that boomed over media microphones. His famous "a billion here and a billion there and soon you're talking about real money" quote is iconic. (Or something like that.)

Even as a Democrat, I always liked him.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
5. Glenn Beck rails against ‘progressive’ washing machines
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 03:17 AM
Oct 2013

Glenn Beck’s attack on all forms of what he deems “progressivism” expanded to the home-improvement front today, as he criticized General Electric’s new “progressive” dishwasher. (Raw Story couldn’t find any information about this new GE dishwasher, but a lack of evidence isn’t proof that it doesn’t exist.) According to Beck, the new GE dishwasher is just the latest in a long line of attempts to “embed” the word “progressive” into daily discourse.

His co-host reminded him that “‘progressive’ does mean other things other than ‘progressive,’” but Beck would have none of it.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/04/glenn-becks-trip-to-lowes-reveals-massive-progressive-conspiracy/

Obviously a Glenn Beck fan and and has the mental powers of a washing machine.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. Its Orwellian.
Wed Oct 9, 2013, 03:55 AM
Oct 2013

This is a very Orwellian thing, giving something a name that doesn't fit with its actual role.

Doublespeak.

The Ministry of Love, Miniluv, for example. Picture in your mind, if you've never read or know the premise of "Nineteen Eighty-Four" by George Orwell, what that Ministry does. Imagine the Love building. Imagine what exciting things go on in there.
Quite nice. Right?
It enforces loyalty and love of Big Brother through fear, a repressive apparatus, torture, and brainwashing.

The Ministry of Love building has no windows and is surrounded by barbed wire entanglements, steel doors, hidden machine-gun nests, and guards armed with "jointed truncheons". Referred to as "The place where there is no darkness," its interior lights are never turned off.

It is arguably the most powerful ministry, controlling the will of the population. The Thought Police is part of Miniluv. And while the term "Ministry" implies that it is headed by a minister, there is nowhere in the book any mention of a Minister of Love nor of the ministers heading Oceania's other Ministries.


It's not the invention of language. It's the destruction of language, the destruction of a word's real meaning to suit a purpose.


‘The Eleventh Edition is the definitive edition,’ he said. ‘We’re getting the language into its final shape — the shape it’s going to have when nobody speaks anything else. When we’ve finished with it, people like you will have to learn it all over again. You think, I dare say, that our chief job is inventing new words. But not a bit of it! We’re destroying words — scores of them, hundreds of them, every day. We’re cutting the language down to the bone.

The Eleventh Edition won’t contain a single word that will become obsolete before the year 2050.’


Nineteen Eight-Four, Part 1, Chapter 5.
As it stands, the ACA is more affordable for people than the previous way of doing things. But so many people have been sold the constant message that Obama is bad (even with the conflicting messages that he's a brutal dictator AND a wimpy do-nothing), and everyone from healthcare lobbyists to politicians have been sprinkling their messages of doom and gloom with the word "Obamacare" since early 2007 (before Obama was the front-runner for the 2008 election - politicians such as Mitt Romney covered all the bases in the summer of 2007, saying "It'll be what's known as Hillary-care or Barack Obama-care or whatever you want to call it&quot , low information people that don't know the first thing about what's happening in their country have formed an opinion on something repeated so they believe it's gospel.


It's a form of grooming. Preparing or training people for a particular purpose: opposing something as soon as they hear the name, without knowing why they're supposed to hate the thing, or even if they're for every single one of the components of the thing they say they're against.

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